Balancing Bids… using Time as a part of the Bid

@thedesertfox

Yeah, I’ve read that and I believe it. I think until 1943 or 1944 the Americans had more ground units in the Pacific?

Yeah, the US built a ton of ships. For some reason the US never gets to seemingly similar numbers in the game.

@Young:

I don’t mean to derail the topic, I just want some opinions about my own house rule NOs for G40 balance… please PM me with any comments about the following NOs so that we can keep this thread about Balance Mod.

Thanks.

New & Modified National Objectives

Germany (in addition to all original NOs)
-5 IPCs if an Axis power controls London

Soviet Union (2 NOs which will replace the original National Prestige NO)
-5 IPCs if there are no Axis warships in sea zone #125, and the Allies control Archangel as well as London
-5 IPCs if there are no Allied units on any original Russian territories

Japan (in addition to all original NOs)
-5 IPCs if Japan controls all original Chinese territories

United States (in addition to all original NOs)
-5 IPCs if the United States are at war with the Axis powers

UK Europe (in addition to all original NOs)

5 IPCs if there are no German submarines anywhere on the board other than in the Baltic Sea (sea zones 113-115), the Black Sea (100), and the Caspian Sea (unnumbered)

ANZAC (in addition to all original NOs)
-5 IPCs if the Allies control Cairo (when at war with Germany/Italy)

Grasshopper, Germany already gets +5 for controlling UK in Balance Mod (its “+5 if Axis control EITHER UK or Egypt” now)

@P@nther:

@Nazred:

I was wondering as well can airplanes land in captured area’s which were pro your side. (example in non-combat movement fase infatry from norway take finland and then fighter from norway land in the same turn in finland) I was wondering this because it was possible in tripleA

This is not legal:

@rulebook:

Air Units: An air unit must end its move in an eligible
landing space. Air units can land in any territory that
was friendly (but not friendly neutral) at the start of the
current turn.

TripleA lists in the game notes for the Global map:

@Game:

(PE) You may not land air units in Friendly Neutrals, including the same turn they are captured, unless they have been previously attacked.

(PE) = Player Enforced = You must be aware of the rule and must follow it. The engine will not stop you from breaking the rule.

HTH :-)

Ahhh thank you!

3 boats a turn on the Atlantic side or the pacific side?

Pacific.  He was speaking of the type of Navy that could get built up between Anzac and US with a late DOW.  Without pulling guys from the Atlantic, US can’t put a ton of guys on the Pacific in those first 3 turns.  Just to match the Japan Navy the US needs 2 more carriers, 1 battleship, 1 destroyer.  That’s  60 ipcs.  In my opinion, US needs more navy since they need to be the attackers.  That would require neglecting the atlantic almost entirely (which isn’t an awful idea depending on how good the German player is).  That also doesn’t take into account that Japan buys a Carrier and can load it without spending the 20-21 ipcs for fighters.  The Naval bases also allow for 3 more fighters to defend if used correctly.

Spendo02 - Appreciate the feedback. I honestly never even took the US disrupting my convoy zones into account!

Vance - sent you a message if you don’t mind checking it.

yes @ 6-3

@Cow:

In order to balance the game I need to know if UK is supposed to fall or not. In every other game holding uk was easy. just buy 10 inf if you are worried.  In this one you can max out the number of guys on your capitol and still be overwhelmed. Which leads me to believe UK should die.

Worse case scenario: subtract 12 total unit value from USA and +4 inf on uk.

UK is NOT supposed to fall.  I have yet in my games seen Germany take UK and actually win the game.  Mainly because they can’t defeat Russia when they spend an ungodly amount of money the first 3 turns attacking UK and for what, ONE VC. I know that w/o UK in the game, africal opens up for ITaly, but only one VC down there.

G1 build is a CV, SS and TT from what I have read here
OR
G1 Build:  3 Transports
Bank 9 IPC

G2 Build:  6 Transports, 1 Airbase (Normandy), 1 Bomber

G3 Sealion Attack:  10 Infantry, 8 Tanks, 2 Artillery, 4 Fighters, 4 Tactical Bombers, 2 Strategic Bombers
Run 1 Fighter and 1 Tactical Bomber with Battleship and Cruiser

Meanwhile, Russia has built up their forces and is ready to invade on turn 4.

So you have committed 100 IPCs plus an enormous amount of military units that will never see Russian soil.  Plus now you have to defend uk against the US coming in a few turns.

Germany can win by holding UK at bay and concentrating on Russia.