I have been playing around with different configurations for a custom table and wanted to note some things I’ve landed on that I really like. A main one thing is having the map mounted so that it can slide around as needed on top of a bigger playing area. My table is 65” x 95” in total with a 5.5” arm rest around the outside and the middle is a recessed neoprene surface. I have the OOB Global map mounted on 1/2” rigid foam with a 1/2” aluminum frame around it. This allows the map to slide up close to whoever’s turn it is, but then be in the middle so both players can roll dice In front of them without disturbing the map and in easy view of the other player. (Plus we like lots of room to roll the bones). This ability to adjust the surface along with a standing height, makes it comfortable for long uses because you can move around more and don’t feel as tied down.
Things I’ve learned and changed from original design - I originally used too big of a frame for the map and mounted it on too high of a foam block (you can see these pictures at the bottom) - it made it hard to see the other player’s dice and the big frame took up too much real estate. My global map is mounted on much thinner foam (the framing is bad, you can see if you look closely) but I also used much thinner aluminum angle for the frame. This gives just enough grip when needing to move the map around (I use furniture slides on the bottom, which glide very nicely on the neoprene) but doesn’t make the whole thing too bulky. Having it an inch or so off the surface keeps the dice off, but isn’t so heigh that you can’t see the other player’s dice rolls. When playing other versions (such as Zombies) the board is much smaller, but it can easily swap in and out on the same table since it can move around where ever it is needed or be pushed aside.
I originally made it normal table height, but found long reaches while sitting were harder and it just felt cramped. Standing height with a bar stool is a great way to have the best of both worlds.
The 5.5” rim around the table itself gives you a nice arm rest that doesn’t interfere with the gaming surface. I’m playing with how to best add some cushion to this part - open to suggestions. Sometimes I just lay a piece of leftover neoprene on it.
Dice bounce nice on the neoprene and stay off the floor. It also feels nice and has enough give to allow things to slide but be picked up easily. Wouldn’t definitely go with neoprene again as a surface covering.
I made the drawers open to the inside of the table so you can stay hunched over the action while accessing and stowing stuff away. 50/50 on whether I would keep this if I were to do it again. If I were doing it again, I might try to build customer drawers form scratch using actual drawer glides, but that was beyond my ability when I first did this, so I just used clear plexiglass boxes with aluminum pulls mounted on them. It’s nice having them clear, and I was happy with how the pulls came out, but without glides they can be a little fussy sliding in and out of their slots.
I originally designed the table so that I could put a cover surface back on top when not in use, but find I don’t really ever do that, so if I were to do it again, I might not mess with that part (I never even finished staining those as you can see in the pictures).
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Printing a map
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So I’m thinking of making a custom table to fit G40 on. I think I would like to have a 1 piece map and have it permanently attached to the table. 70”x32” is fine for us.
Questions…
1. What is the best material to get this printed on?
2. Where did you get it printed?
3. How much will this cost me? -
I would recommend that you go to a specialty print shop in your town that has the capacity to print the size of map that you want. I can tell you that the Staples Office Depot in my town has a printer that is 500 miles away from here and they really didn’t know jack about printing more than doing pages. Their expertise seemed to be finding out how much it would cost me by reading a manual and telling me how long it would take.
I went to a local print shop, Papyrus Printing, who have a large printer on site and people who were knowledgeable about printing. I told them what it was for and how durable it needed to be. I asked them what I should have it printed on and how to protect it (they don’t all have the same materials in stock). My map was printed on some kind of vinyl and then finished with a cold matte laminate. You want to stay away from any type of glossy protective laminate or material because it will reflect the light and you will have a difficult time seeing the map. The cost will vary from place to place but a quality job is worth paying decent money for.
Here is a short video that I made when I had my map done;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gshpGSnfA&t=133s -
Not sure where you live but I use AlphaGraphics in Sunnyvale, CA. They have printed two boards for me 1942 v2 and 1940 on cold rolled steel. It is probably double what vinyl costs. I am sure they can/will print on just about material you want, however.
They do good work and had to learn how to print on steel so they had to print it a few times…they didn’t charge me for that. They even sourced the steel. The owner is Alejandro. Best thing, the whole crew was into the printing. The had me bring sculps to see how they looked on the board and wanted to know how it is played. The front desk person’s (Suzan Pearson csr462@alphagraphics.com) was going to boot camp she wanted some pictures. I think the owner’s son is in the Navy or Air Force.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/alphagraphics-sunnyvale-3
Anyway, they are one potential source and I am sure they would ship and be happy to work with you.
Let me know if any questions…SJ
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Not sure where you live but I use AlphaGraphics in Sunnyvale, CA. They have printed two boards for me 1942 v2 and 1940 on cold rolled steel. It is probably double what vinyl costs. I am sure they can/will print on just about material you want, however.
They do good work and had to learn how to print on steel so they had to print it a few times…they didn’t charge me for that. They even sourced the steel. The owner is Alejandro. Best thing, the whole crew was into the printing. The had me bring sculps to see how they looked on the board and wanted to know how it is played. The front desk person’s (Suzan Pearson csr462@alphagraphics.com) was going to boot camp she wanted some pictures. I think the owner’s son is in the Navy or Air Force.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/alphagraphics-sunnyvale-3
Anyway, they are one potential source and I am sure they would ship and be happy to work with you.
Let me know if any questions…SJ
That’s sounds ideal. Do you have any pics or videos?
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I would recommend that you go to a specialty print shop in your town that has the capacity to print the size of map that you want. I can tell you that the Staples Office Depot in my town has a printer that is 500 miles away from here and they really didn’t know jack about printing more than doing pages. Their expertise seemed to be finding out how much it would cost me by reading a manual and telling me how long it would take.
I went to a local print shop, Papyrus Printing, who have a large printer on site and people who were knowledgeable about printing. I told them what it was for and how durable it needed to be. I asked them what I should have it printed on and how to protect it (they don’t all have the same materials in stock). My map was printed on some kind of vinyl and then finished with a cold matte laminate. You want to stay away from any type of glossy protective laminate or material because it will reflect the light and you will have a difficult time seeing the map. The cost will vary from place to place but a quality job is worth paying decent money for.
Here is a short video that I made when I had my map done;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6gshpGSnfA&t=133sThanks for the tips and video. I live in Los Angeles so I won’t have a problem finding a print shop if I go with vinyl. Do you have it glued down on something?
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No the vinyl I have is thick enough to stay flat on the table. I tried two-sided tape but that was a nightmare to get off of the vinyl. I ended up using WD-40 because nothing else worked. You can get it mounted on something and that will keep it flat but then you won’t be able to roll it up if you want to store it. If you have a dedicated table for your map then that’s a good plan.
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Not sure where you live but I use AlphaGraphics in Sunnyvale, CA. They have printed two boards for me 1942 v2 and 1940 on cold rolled steel. It is probably double what vinyl costs. I am sure they can/will print on just about material you want, however.
They do good work and had to learn how to print on steel so they had to print it a few times…they didn’t charge me for that. They even sourced the steel. The owner is Alejandro. Best thing, the whole crew was into the printing. The had me bring sculps to see how they looked on the board and wanted to know how it is played. The front desk person’s (Suzan Pearson csr462@alphagraphics.com) was going to boot camp she wanted some pictures. I think the owner’s son is in the Navy or Air Force.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/alphagraphics-sunnyvale-3
Anyway, they are one potential source and I am sure they would ship and be happy to work with you.
Let me know if any questions…SJ
Just got a quote, 1 piece 70x32, for $275 from them.
Another for$375, 2 pieces that connect. It’s a lot of money but it would be nice. -
That is crazy money. I paid $130 for an almost 4x8 board in Seattle on Vinyl.
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That is crazy money. I paid $130 for an almost 4x8 board in Seattle on Vinyl.
Yep, going with vinyl. :-D
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What was the 275-375 quote for? Styrene, metal?…. Im here in mission Viejo, going out tomorrow for my quotes.
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My 4 x 8 maps are printed on vinyl for 120. Then I spray a thin coat of dull coat if u don’t get the matte finish.
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What was the 275-375 quote for? Styrene, metal?…. Im here in mission Viejo, going out tomorrow for my quotes.
Metal map. Without a doubt it would be the best map to have.
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Wow that’s an expensive map! But metal would be really nice if you have a fixed table for the game.
I will go with Vinyl when my global map is finished. Cheaper and the ability to store it more easily are the only reasons.
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What was the 275-375 quote for? Styrene, metal?…. Im here in mission Viejo, going out tomorrow for my quotes.
What kind of quotes did you get?
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What was the 275-375 quote for? Styrene, metal?…. Im here in mission Viejo, going out tomorrow for my quotes.
What kind of quotes did you get?
Vinyl was 480, and thin plastic paper stuff, non tear able was 300… prices are for 6 maps, I didn’t get into individual costs, as I need 6 for my event.
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What was the 275-375 quote for? Styrene, metal?…. Im here in mission Viejo, going out tomorrow for my quotes.
What kind of quotes did you get?
Vinyl was 480, and thin plastic paper stuff, non tear able was 300… prices are for 6 maps, I didn’t get into individual costs, as I need 6 for my event.
Great price for 6 maps!
Bad news for me the metal map guy quoted me
$200 to pack and ship. My dreams are destroyed!
I guess it’s vinyl for me. Which is fine -
What size ? 3 x6 ?
Ya about my price after u break it down in size mine 4 x 8 f. 125.00 3 x 6 f 90.00
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What size ? 3 x6 ?
Ya about my price after u break it down in size mine 4 x 8 f. 125.00 3 x 6 f 90.00
Just want the 76”x 33” file YG has up here. I’m happy with OOB size.
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$200 to ship…darn. You can probably find a printer where you are or do a road trip to the Bay Area!
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I can get a quote from my print shop for a 72" X 33" 1940 Global map printed on adhesive vinyl with or without cold lamination option. This would roll like a poster making it more affordable to ship, they have a UPS account that is fully insured as well.