Sub battles pt 2

In addition to forces above I’ll send the strategic bomber from England and fighters if their still around from the scramble for your fleet.  If you send the fighters from England you have to commit your carrier. Lose those fighters 1st if you feel you might retreat.  This gives you two additional fighters and a bomber.

@iandemel:

tell nutbar to play by alpha 2

Most people are playing 2nd edition rules, the Alpha rules are obsolete considering that 1st edition is out of print.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34418.0

@theROCmonster:

I recommend playing the newest alpha. The new alpha rules allow scrambling from not island airbases as well, which I believe is huge. The entire flavor of the game is changed with the new alpha rules VS out of box. Also out of Box I think UK just falls to sea lion everytime…

theROCmonster, he is playing the G40 2nd edition (recently released). The OOB rules include the the newest Alpha (nicknamed Alpha 3.9) with the couple changes Port Hardcore mentioned. I guess you could call OOB 2nd edition Alpha+4, or the final Alpha.

I would go OOB 2nd edition instead of Alpha+3.9, like kcdzim said. The changes between the two were minor compared to the changes that took place through the Alpha project (like the scramble rules from Alpha+1 allowing all airbases to scramble, but only 3 units). 1 UK inf missing in Egypt surprised many ppl thinking the game is axis bias, but like he said it probably balances the Med which is a battle with-in the war. Adding Korea to the Nap just makes sense.

What I would do is play OOB 2nd ED a few times, and decide for yourself which side has an edge (every group is different), keeping in mind that the allies have a longer learning curve and it normally takes a few games for them to figure things out. If in the first game you lose Moscow in turn 6-7, then figure out what the allies need to do to save/delay that in the next game. I would also plan for a two day game the first time LOL (2-10 hour sessions).

Thanks for posting the inventory file.

@Dijitz:

So no’s would be kept track of via web board?

Alpha+.2 is still only in the Alpha stage (see Alpha vs Beta w/Google).

With changes quickly happening, the people who work on this will let a final tested ruleset come out first, then complete ABattleMap.

Until then, help to test Alpha+.2 and join all the controversy that there is.  :-)

Thanks for trying them out, and PLEASE help me correct the errors that you find!  Just post them here or on BGG and I’ll upload new versions as soon as they are fixed.

Also, I like the idea of adding in a sheet or two summarizing some of the rules changes to submarines, SBR, etc.  I plan on doing this.  Have any suggestions of things that should be covered, let me know.

Also, keep in mind the NO descriptions are meant to be reminders, not an exhaustive description.  They should be helpful but may not explain everything needed due to space constraints.  However, if you are finding any of them misleading then let me know.

EDIT:  Ok I did a check and found a couple major errors, my sincere apologies to anyone who printed these!  I have taken down the file and submitted a new one that I believe is 100% accurate, its waiting for approval.

EDIT:  February 3, ok new files have been approved and are available at the link above.

Japan seems more capable of wiping out China with more land units. I started playing Alpha +.2 last night and my roommate has almost cleared out China.

I have created a sheet for entering in battle results such as:

Land Defence
Land Attack
Naval Attack
Naval Def

It will tell you the overall percentage of your results and of your team and the 3 different neutrals.

I also hope to add an IPC loss and Gain based on units that were lost in battle so for example:

I lost 3 inf and 1 arm
you lost 5 inf and 1 fig

I lose 15 IPC worth of units you lost 25 so my battle gain is +10 ipc worth of units your loss is 10 ipc worth of units
Battlesheet.xls