Retreating from a combined amphibious assault and land attack. Is it possible?

@wittman
Where are you from, if I may ask?

@JeroldTheGreat:

What you can also reckon too is the possibility of sneaking tanks and mechs away to the far east, where even though all Russian territories are worth one, the sheer number of them are a huge income.

If Russia moves those 18 inf into Manchuria or Korea, could work out well. If he’s bringing them home, not so much.

shove a carrier in 109

A transport can load units while in any friendly sea zone along its route, including the sea zone it started in. If a transport loads
land units during the Combat Move phase, it must offload those units to attack a hostile territory as part of an amphibious
assault during the Conduct Combat phase, or it must retreat during the sea combat step of the amphibious assault sequence
while attempting to do so. A transport that is part of an amphibious assault must end its movement in a friendly sea zone (or
one that could become friendly as result of sea combat) from which it can conduct the assault. However, a transport is not
allowed to offload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing 1 or more ignored enemy submarines unless at
least 1 warship belonging to the attacking power is also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.

Page 16, AA Pacific 1940 Rulebook

Battleships, aircraft carriers, cruisers, destroyers, submarines, and transports move, attack, and defend in sea zones. They
can’t move into territories. For the sake of these rules, the following are surface warships: battleships, carriers, cruisers, and
destroyers. Transports are not warships. Submarines are warships, but they are not surface warships.

Page 31, AA Pacific 1940 Rulebook

This might help clarify.

Thanks for the clarification. I still want my game Noll!

It is hard to tell whether or not a counter-Sea Lion (as you put it) helped or hurt America.  For one, all those ships had to have made Germany and Italy’s jobs harder, but on the other hand, that’s less ground units to push out the Japanese.

You only use a movement point when you cross a boundary between spaces.  Taking off from or landing on a carrier does not involve crossing such a boundary because both the carrier and plane are both in the same sea zone.

@AdmiralNagano:

The way I remember it is that, if a plane can theoretically land at the very end of the turn, it can attack.

The only exception to that is a retreat. If you use a carrier in an attack, you can’t assume that you will retreat on some combat round and thus allow your fighter land on it. Other than that, yes, if it can theoretically land, even if a battle is required to be won (like 1 sub versus 1000 battleships) then it can land.