e677cdd6-362e-446e-9f1d-496b9ff026ef-Germany - Round 1.tsvg Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Egypt: 1 mech_infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 39 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Yunnan: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Kweichow: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Sakha: 1 artillery EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Alexandria: 1 artillery EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Germans buy 1 armour and 6 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 111 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to France 1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to France 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia Combat - Germans Battle in 106 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 submarine British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in 110 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 32 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in 111 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in France Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 9 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 1 artillery moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Poland 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis Place Units - Germans 6 artilleries placed in Germany 1 armour placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUsFind League Opponents Thread
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But I know, I know. 2nd edition was put out the same official way by the same official people.
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OK, sorry 4 posts in a row, but surely some will find this very interesting.
I opened my box, and ANZAC has a MAJOR on NSW.Berlin has a minor, like I said. Let that sink in.
ANZAC has 4 fighters to start.
Germany has 4 fighters, 3 tactical, total 7. (None on Berlin by the way)That’s what I still think of when the term “out of the box” is used. :neutral_face:
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For me OOB stands for any game in the world which you play as found when unsealed, including the rules, no matter which version. No bidding, no house rules. That goes for any A&A version, Shogun, Amerika, etc.
A&A Classic even offers variants in the rule book which would not consider being OOB but a variant.
So I define OOB as original game rules of any version, not the initial version of a game.
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@gamerman01 said in Find League Opponents Thread:
I adapt, to call what you all call “out of the box” (2nd edition), but the way I see it "out of the box: is the first printed, published, produced P40 and G40. You know, that people took… out of the box. That one was the first distributed throughout the world (at least I would assume).
Just to throw my opinion in:
Throughout my presence on this forum I have understood “playing OOB” to be a consensus of playing according to the latest version of the ‘official rules’ of an ‘officially issued’ game, including the latest ‘official “FAQ/Errata” sheets’.
For P40/G40 that would mean the current 2nd Edition rules as published by Renegade.
IMHO in case people don’t agree to that players might or must have different understandings of what “OOB” is, as written rules (sometimes) need interpretation and get clarified over time, maybe even change in nuances. How should anyone buying P/E40-games from Renegade today know what makes their specific (latest) OOB different from the specific OOB in 2012? -
I would say that OOB = 2nd edition + FAQ&Errata.
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And including any clarifications issued by Kreighund.
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@simon33 said in Find League Opponents Thread:
OOB = 2nd edition + FAQ&Errata.
I agree with Panther and Simon33. OOB = 2nd edition + FAQ&Errata.
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Looking for a PtV game (slow paced).
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Right, all of you are right, and I just wasn’t clear on what I meant.
I was not making a judgment on what out of the box should mean. Of course it means the 2nd edition, the latest version to date.
I have the P40 and E40 that was first made available in stores, on my shelf, and those are the boxes I opened many years ago. That is the G40 I first laid eyes on, so that will for ever be the G40 “out of the box” version that I think of every time I hear “out of the box” even though I know that it’s not. Because I never bought 2nd edition, because it’s just a different rulebook and maybe setups.
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Anyone who was there, in 2010 or 2012 or whatever, will enjoy this:
There are not enough tactical bombers in my brand new game, for the game setup!
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Maybe we should move this discussion to another thread.
What really pisses me of that these expensive boxes come with not enough pieces, and some game versions even come without paper money! They save some 50 cents production cost assuming that everyone has money from other A&A versions that they can use. If A&A wasn’t such a great game, that would be enough reason to boycott this board game series.
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No money, and cheap little paper buttons for facilities. First time ever. No resentment here, no. No one will play it with me anyway.
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I’m up for a game, either OOB or BM. Andrew you can PM if you didn’t get your game yet. I’m rusty on OOB, but trying to shake that off.
I think you are all right by the way. All games are, in a sense, made up. But OOB is the original and the one that was designed ‘professionally.’ And the second edition was nicely done despite the balance issues. Its more universally played, at least outside here, and going to be understandably what some people prefer.
But sometimes the professionals do get it wrong as gamerman notes. And occasionally the fan made house rules are actually an improvement on the original, even when the original is good. That is rare, but that is how I feel about BM. As much as second edition fixed things, I do like the changes in BM and I think they are an improvement over the original. Obviously a very subjective position and open to debate.
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@aequitas-et-veritas said in Find League Opponents Thread:
Looking for a PtV game (slow paced).
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meet up in Iowa for a weekend rally? How far are you from De Moines?
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Still looking for a game. Either oob or bm. Tier 1 or up
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@farmboy said in Find League Opponents Thread:
Still looking for a game. Either oob or bm. Tier 1 or up
Oh really? I will play you in BM. I bid 20 for allies.
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Still looking for a PtV game.
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@aequitas-et-veritas If you are still looking Im up for a new game. Am away for the weekend but can pm you a bid when i get back on sunday?
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@wizmark thank you for the offer.
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Looking for an OOB game. If you are interested just shoot me a bid.
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