Thx! Enjoyed the game, well played. Dice were unkind to you, especially the AA hits.
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@akreider2 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Amon-Sul Somebody should fix the scoring mechanism. I’m pretty sure there are common solutions to this, like how Chess has rankings and I play Starcraft which does a decent job.
Excluding losing games is silly. For some reason the League was biased this way under the old system as well in 2007 when I last played.
I do not say we should exclude lost games. But i do not say the current system is perfect too.
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@Amon-Sul Right, I’m talking about the League scoring system excluding losing games, not you.
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@Amon-Sul That is no doubt some very unlucky dice but it seems silly to complain and call out the other player. This is a dice game after all. Good dice will overcome bad strategy but this doesn’t seem like the way to go. Not to mention there could be a lot of reasons this was a good strategic move even with unfavorable odds initially.
One thing to note though is that simulators like this have a hard time showing how critical the early rounds are in these battles. Especially when one army is attacking with a lot of units rolling 1’s. Keep in mind that every unit killed by the attacker removes a defender at 2 while every kill on defense only removes an attacker at 1. Large battles like this have a much flatter bell curve so to speak than most realize.
What do I know though, I am on a terrible losing streak and it is all the dices fault.
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@Amon-Sul sorry just noticed i replied to the wrong person. Blah that is what i get for sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong.
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L20 AndrewAAGamer (Axis) over max334 (Allies +30) Global 1940 2nd Ed
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@Misterblue said in Post League Game Results Here:
I don’t want to be a bother but I think my second win over Sovietishcat has not been counted. I suppose that if I wanted to cling to my Master ranking for as long as possible I should have kept my mouth shut. :grin:
You’re absolutely right - I was AWOL here for almost a month - updating everyone now! I do note the last update date at the top of the spreadsheet, for your future reference :)
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AD, I can ease the suffering a bit by giving you 2 points for ABH instead of 0, since he was tier 1 a few years ago. In case he doesn’t finish 3 games this year…
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@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
AD, I can ease the suffering a bit by giving you 2 points for ABH instead of 0, since he was tier 1 a few years ago. In case he doesn’t finish 3 games this year…
Hey, koala is atleast tier 1, likely E, but maybe won’t finish 3 games this season either. Just sayin’…
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Hey, I clearly finished 3 games. Just sayin. :P
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@akreider2 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Amon-Sul Right, I’m talking about the League scoring system excluding losing games, not you.
??? No one is excluding losing games lol
I just forgot about you guys for a few weeks. Look at the top of the spreadsheet - it always says when it was last updated, thanks -
@trulpen said in Post League Game Results Here:
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
AD, I can ease the suffering a bit by giving you 2 points for ABH instead of 0, since he was tier 1 a few years ago. In case he doesn’t finish 3 games this year…
Hey, koala is atleast tier 1, likely E, but maybe won’t finish 3 games this season either. Just sayin’…
See, AD, I risked opening this can of worms by making an exception for you. Hope you’re feeling the love
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@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@trulpen said in Post League Game Results Here:
@gamerman01 said in Post League Game Results Here:
AD, I can ease the suffering a bit by giving you 2 points for ABH instead of 0, since he was tier 1 a few years ago. In case he doesn’t finish 3 games this year…
Hey, koala is atleast tier 1, likely E, but maybe won’t finish 3 games this season either. Just sayin’…
See, AD, I risked opening this can of worms by making an exception for you. Hope you’re feeling the love
We can switch to an Elo-system and everyone will be happy. :)
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@AldoRaine said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Amon-Sul That is no doubt some very unlucky dice but it seems silly to complain and call out the other player. This is a dice game after all. Good dice will overcome bad strategy but this doesn’t seem like the way to go. Not to mention there could be a lot of reasons this was a good strategic move even with unfavorable odds initially.
One thing to note though is that simulators like this have a hard time showing how critical the early rounds are in these battles. Especially when one army is attacking with a lot of units rolling 1’s. Keep in mind that every unit killed by the attacker removes a defender at 2 while every kill on defense only removes an attacker at 1. Large battles like this have a much flatter bell curve so to speak than most realize.
What do I know though, I am on a terrible losing streak and it is all the dices fault.
This is a good post, well said Aldo
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Squeaky wheel gets the grease, Trulpen, unless it’s you
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Don’t ELO systems always add to your rating if you win, no matter how weak the opponent? Encourages bottom feeders who get inflated ratings, no thanks.
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I think I misinterpreted this. Apologies!
“However, against a single opponent, only best of 3 games will count (maximum of 2 wins for 1 player). This limit can be expanded when both you and your opponent have completed more league games:”
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No problem, thanks akreider, I think I see what you’re saying. I thought I just confused you by not updating anything for a few weeks.
Sorry everybody, I’ll put it on my calendar, and maybe make it a habit to update every Sunday night or something (at a minimum)
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@gamerman01 A proper system should add to your ranking based on the probability of winning or losing. So if you play a very weak player and have a 1/1000 chance of losing, your ELO gain if you win should reflect that.
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@akreider2 And thus an ELO gain by a favored player in a match where they are expected to crush their opponent should be very small.
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Yeah, that’s not how it works here. Unlike chess, we have a very small number of games played because this game takes a lot longer than chess. Not really comparable. This system really works well for our purposes, and if I get much more criticism, someone else is going to have to take over because I’m not even playing the game any more.