Game History
Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Leningrad to Archangel Germans take Archangel from Russians 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia Germans take Karelia from Russians 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Vologda Germans take Vologda from Russians 1 armour moved from Vologda to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 armour moved from Novgorod to Leningrad 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Leningrad to Vyborg 1 transport moved from 116 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to 117 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 armour, 4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from France to Norway 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Norway 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus Germans take Southern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Russians scrambles 2 units out of 128 Sea Zone to defend against the attack in Norway Battle in Norway Germans attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 5 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; Americans defend with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Russians defend with 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Germans win, taking Norway from Russians with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 57 Casualties for Germans: 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 5 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry Battle in Vyborg Germans attack with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 destroyer moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 116 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Leningrad 1 fighter and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Norway to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 artillery, 3 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany 5 infantry placed in Germany 2 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 1. 3 fighters placed in France 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Germans undo move 3. 2 fighters placed in France 1 fighter placed in Western Germany 2 destroyers placed in 116 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 128 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,3,1,6,5,2,3,6,4,3,4,5,4,1,4 Germans collect 54 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUsPost League Game Results Here
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@ArtofWar1947 It took forever and some well timed dice luck to overcome your tenacious defense. Well played.
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Trulpin over Crockett36’s in my first game of balanced mod.
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@crockett36 said in Post League Game Results Here:
Trulpin over Crockett36’s in my first game of balanced mod.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/34992/l20-1-trulpen-x-vs-crockett36-a-10-bm3
A serious bomber-spam.
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Kamikaze_pilot +12 Allies -VS- dawgoneit Axis BM3
Kamikaze_pilot +12 Allies Wins
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35128/kamikaze_pilot-12-allies-vs-dawgoneit-axis-bm3/101 -
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/34584/adam-3-v-jww-axis
adam +3 v 666 axis…adam wins of course…he is simply a far superior player…I have a lot of work to do.
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https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/34841/l20-giallo-x-vs-pejon_88-6-bm/131
Pejon_88 over giallo(axis) a lot of bad dice… bm
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Dawgoneit (Allies +30) over StuckTojo (Axis) GL2
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35116/40lg-dawgoneit-allies-30-vs-stucktojo-axis-no-victory-cities/130 -
Dawgoneit (L+15) v. Surfer (X) G40 BM3, rematch
Surfer (X) Wins.
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35111/dawgoneit-l-15-v-surfer-x-g40-bm3-rematch/151 -
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35055/abh-axis-vs-axis-dominion-bm3-20l
ABH over me, with an early massive dose of luck against the Russians, and that was pretty much over from round 5, altho I managed to stretch it to round 32 and could’ve kept going for another 10 rounds at least.
he openly admitted his strategy was to take whatever lucky chance he could get since he considers himself the weaker player. I do not enjoy playing someone who’s primary strategy is to get lucky. so now I know to avoid playing him and anyone who will have that mindset. while I can understand going for luck if you’re losing and feeling desperate, but to go for such odds right at the outset, before anyone has any real advantage? to make that your primary strategy? sorry but for me, this game is fun because it offers more tactics and strategies than a lot of common games out there, but that gets thrown out the window with this kind of approach (I would have same complaint if the battle went horribly wrong for him, as it would not be any fun for me if he threw the game that early on).
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@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35055/abh-axis-vs-axis-dominion-bm3-20l
ABH over me, with an early massive dose of luck against the Russians, and that was pretty much over from round 5, altho I managed to stretch it to round 32 and could’ve kept going for another 10 rounds at least.
he openly admitted his strategy was to take whatever lucky chance he could get since he considers himself the weaker player. I do not enjoy playing someone who’s primary strategy is to get lucky. so now I know to avoid playing him and anyone who will have that mindset. while I can understand going for luck if you’re losing and feeling desperate, but to go for such odds right at the outset, before anyone has any real advantage? to make that your primary strategy? sorry but for me, this game is fun because it offers more tactics and strategies than a lot of common games out there, but that gets thrown out the window with this kind of approach (I would have same complaint if the battle went horribly wrong for him, as it would not be any fun for me if he threw the game that early on).
Maybe he only wanted to try 1 round and retreat, but got pretty lucky in that rd1 so he pressed forward?
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@Amon-Sul said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35055/abh-axis-vs-axis-dominion-bm3-20l
ABH over me, with an early massive dose of luck against the Russians, and that was pretty much over from round 5, altho I managed to stretch it to round 32 and could’ve kept going for another 10 rounds at least.
he openly admitted his strategy was to take whatever lucky chance he could get since he considers himself the weaker player. I do not enjoy playing someone who’s primary strategy is to get lucky. so now I know to avoid playing him and anyone who will have that mindset. while I can understand going for luck if you’re losing and feeling desperate, but to go for such odds right at the outset, before anyone has any real advantage? to make that your primary strategy? sorry but for me, this game is fun because it offers more tactics and strategies than a lot of common games out there, but that gets thrown out the window with this kind of approach (I would have same complaint if the battle went horribly wrong for him, as it would not be any fun for me if he threw the game that early on).
Maybe he only wanted to try 1 round and retreat, but got pretty lucky in that rd1 so he pressed forward?
no, he was taking big gambles like that all game actually, even earlier than that he did same kind of Hail Mary on my fleet in 110, but that came out roughly even. he later did similar big gambles in pac. I’ve actually played him a few times in the past, and while I remember he would like to gamble like this a lot, it never seemed like he would do it as his main strategy. it always seemed like he would do it on a smaller scale here and there, and only when he started losing and getting more desperate. but what bugged me about this game is that he admitted he was determined to try out any such 30 to 50% odds in hopes of getting lucky, and it was so early on that it didn’t make any sense to go for poor odds unless you were just praying for some luck as your strategy.
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Well i also like to hit some 40 - 50 % battles, especially if i can finish my opponent with another allied force.
And it can be quite useful with allies, in sea battles especially.But with axis, and on land battles, well not much of a, good strategy.
But i understand his logic, he risks, and if he takes 1 win against U in 3 or 4 games, gets 8 points, and 4 for all the losses, and he has a PPG of 5+ xd
As U say, that type or risky battles are usually rare, especially on the start of the game and with axis.
With allies it can be more useful, since allies have more money, and a little TUV loss can even be a win for them. And its so nice in sea battles when the defender has to choose cas first, and he takes his ACs down, goin for maximum defense, and then he scores well, but its already late for ACs xd
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But as u say its logical u risk when U re goin down, and u dont have much to loose.
This is odd, but it is legitimate. But it is legitimate U do not play that type of opponent anymore ha
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@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Amon-Sul said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35055/abh-axis-vs-axis-dominion-bm3-20l
ABH over me, with an early massive dose of luck against the Russians, and that was pretty much over from round 5, altho I managed to stretch it to round 32 and could’ve kept going for another 10 rounds at least.
he openly admitted his strategy was to take whatever lucky chance he could get since he considers himself the weaker player. I do not enjoy playing someone who’s primary strategy is to get lucky. so now I know to avoid playing him and anyone who will have that mindset. while I can understand going for luck if you’re losing and feeling desperate, but to go for such odds right at the outset, before anyone has any real advantage? to make that your primary strategy? sorry but for me, this game is fun because it offers more tactics and strategies than a lot of common games out there, but that gets thrown out the window with this kind of approach (I would have same complaint if the battle went horribly wrong for him, as it would not be any fun for me if he threw the game that early on).
Maybe he only wanted to try 1 round and retreat, but got pretty lucky in that rd1 so he pressed forward?
no, he was taking big gambles like that all game actually, even earlier than that he did same kind of Hail Mary on my fleet in 110, but that came out roughly even. he later did similar big gambles in pac. I’ve actually played him a few times in the past, and while I remember he would like to gamble like this a lot, it never seemed like he would do it as his main strategy. it always seemed like he would do it on a smaller scale here and there, and only when he started losing and getting more desperate. but what bugged me about this game is that he admitted he was determined to try out any such 30 to 50% odds in hopes of getting lucky, and it was so early on that it didn’t make any sense to go for poor odds unless you were just praying for some luck as your strategy.
Ha ha, that’s funny. I guess you got to give they guy credit for having the balls to do it. But honestly, hitting a 40%-50% battle isn’t unreasonable, or even 30% if its small.
I hate to bring this ancient debate back, again, but I think while the battle calc is a useful tool, it isn’t the final word. Minor shifts in dice rolls can flip a battle hard. A few extra hits round 1, BOOM the odds go from 30% to 80% just like that…
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@Karl7 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Amon-Sul said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35055/abh-axis-vs-axis-dominion-bm3-20l
ABH over me, with an early massive dose of luck against the Russians, and that was pretty much over from round 5, altho I managed to stretch it to round 32 and could’ve kept going for another 10 rounds at least.
he openly admitted his strategy was to take whatever lucky chance he could get since he considers himself the weaker player. I do not enjoy playing someone who’s primary strategy is to get lucky. so now I know to avoid playing him and anyone who will have that mindset. while I can understand going for luck if you’re losing and feeling desperate, but to go for such odds right at the outset, before anyone has any real advantage? to make that your primary strategy? sorry but for me, this game is fun because it offers more tactics and strategies than a lot of common games out there, but that gets thrown out the window with this kind of approach (I would have same complaint if the battle went horribly wrong for him, as it would not be any fun for me if he threw the game that early on).
Maybe he only wanted to try 1 round and retreat, but got pretty lucky in that rd1 so he pressed forward?
no, he was taking big gambles like that all game actually, even earlier than that he did same kind of Hail Mary on my fleet in 110, but that came out roughly even. he later did similar big gambles in pac. I’ve actually played him a few times in the past, and while I remember he would like to gamble like this a lot, it never seemed like he would do it as his main strategy. it always seemed like he would do it on a smaller scale here and there, and only when he started losing and getting more desperate. but what bugged me about this game is that he admitted he was determined to try out any such 30 to 50% odds in hopes of getting lucky, and it was so early on that it didn’t make any sense to go for poor odds unless you were just praying for some luck as your strategy.
Ha ha, that’s funny. I guess you got to give they guy credit for having the balls to do it. But honestly, hitting a 40%-50% battle isn’t unreasonable, or even 30% if its small.
I hate to bring this ancient debate back, again, but I think while the battle calc is a useful tool, it isn’t the final word. Minor shifts in dice rolls can flip a battle hard. A few extra hits round 1, BOOM the odds go from 30% to 80% just like that…
As a gaming philosophy, though, I can see the “I am going to hit anything on chance I might win even if it’s unwise” can be annoying.
I guess theoretically if you hit game winning 30% battles all the time your a likely to win 1/3 your games. A 1/3 winning average would actually improve my record against Axis D! HA hahahahahah!
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@Karl7 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Karl7 said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
@Amon-Sul said in Post League Game Results Here:
@axis-dominion said in Post League Game Results Here:
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35055/abh-axis-vs-axis-dominion-bm3-20l
ABH over me, with an early massive dose of luck against the Russians, and that was pretty much over from round 5, altho I managed to stretch it to round 32 and could’ve kept going for another 10 rounds at least.
he openly admitted his strategy was to take whatever lucky chance he could get since he considers himself the weaker player. I do not enjoy playing someone who’s primary strategy is to get lucky. so now I know to avoid playing him and anyone who will have that mindset. while I can understand going for luck if you’re losing and feeling desperate, but to go for such odds right at the outset, before anyone has any real advantage? to make that your primary strategy? sorry but for me, this game is fun because it offers more tactics and strategies than a lot of common games out there, but that gets thrown out the window with this kind of approach (I would have same complaint if the battle went horribly wrong for him, as it would not be any fun for me if he threw the game that early on).
Maybe he only wanted to try 1 round and retreat, but got pretty lucky in that rd1 so he pressed forward?
no, he was taking big gambles like that all game actually, even earlier than that he did same kind of Hail Mary on my fleet in 110, but that came out roughly even. he later did similar big gambles in pac. I’ve actually played him a few times in the past, and while I remember he would like to gamble like this a lot, it never seemed like he would do it as his main strategy. it always seemed like he would do it on a smaller scale here and there, and only when he started losing and getting more desperate. but what bugged me about this game is that he admitted he was determined to try out any such 30 to 50% odds in hopes of getting lucky, and it was so early on that it didn’t make any sense to go for poor odds unless you were just praying for some luck as your strategy.
Ha ha, that’s funny. I guess you got to give they guy credit for having the balls to do it. But honestly, hitting a 40%-50% battle isn’t unreasonable, or even 30% if its small.
I hate to bring this ancient debate back, again, but I think while the battle calc is a useful tool, it isn’t the final word. Minor shifts in dice rolls can flip a battle hard. A few extra hits round 1, BOOM the odds go from 30% to 80% just like that…
As a gaming philosophy, though, I can see the “I am going to hit anything on chance I might win even if it’s unwise” can be annoying.
I guess theoretically if you hit game winning 30% battles all the time your a likely to win 1/3 your games. A 1/3 winning average would actually improve my record against Axis D! HA hahahahahah!
and hence I am avoiding players like that, which can include you if you keep that up!
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For the battle in question:
If no AA hits against the bombers, Germany scores +2 and the soviets score -2 compared to average in round 1…
…Then Germany is suddenly at 75% and about even TUV…
My point is, might not be completely crazy to give it one round to see what happens…even though that was not abh’s logic.
I probably wouldn’t…
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I don’t want to be a bother but I think my second win over Sovietishcat has not been counted. I suppose that if I wanted to cling to my Master ranking for as long as possible I should have kept my mouth shut. :grin:
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@Amon-Sul Somebody should fix the scoring mechanism. I’m pretty sure there are common solutions to this, like how Chess has rankings and I play Starcraft which does a decent job.
Excluding losing games is silly. For some reason the League was biased this way under the old system as well in 2007 when I last played.
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Pejon_88 (Axis) defeats StuckTojo (Allies +10) BM3
https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/35124/pejon_88-x-vs-stucktojo-a-10-bm3/101