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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 5

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 6 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan Italians take Trans-Jordan from British 1 armour moved from Leningrad to Northern Belarus Italians take Northern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Northern Belarus to Leningrad 1 armour moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Northern Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Northern Caucasus Italians attack with 1 armour and 1 bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Caucasus, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Northern Caucasus Italians win, taking Northern Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Northern Caucasus to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Cyprus to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Syria 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 99 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia Place Units - Italians 1 submarine placed in 99 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Southern Italy 3 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 23 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Ukraine: 1 infantry EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Kursk: 1 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Kursk from Russians to Italians EDIT: Changing PUs for Italians from 23 to 24 EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1.00 Russians regular : -0.33

Savegame

@666 A3.tsvg
Hey There doing some combat in Gibraltar, how will you handle the OOL. If I save mid-combat it will break the game. I am also open to making some live rolls on your timeline if you want to see how the first round of combat goes before making a decision.

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers and 17 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from Shantung to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 3 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol 1 artillery moved from Chahar to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Jehol 2 infantry moved from Sumatra to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 132 Sea Zone to Shan State 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 42 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to New Britain 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 47 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Gilbert Islands to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands 2 bombers moved from Kwangtung to Shan State Combat - Japanese Battle in Marshall Islands Battle in New Britain Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in New Britain, round 2 : 1/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in New Britain, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in New Britain Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in New Britain, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in New Britain, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in New Britain Japanese win, taking Marshall Islands from Americans, taking New Britain from ANZAC with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry Battle in Jehol Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 4/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Jehol Japanese win, taking Jehol from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 3 infantry British defend with 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 cruiser in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 3 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 1.50 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.17 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 3 infantry Battle in South Australia Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in South Australia, round 2 : 5/9 hits, 4.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in South Australia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in South Australia Japanese win, taking South Australia from ANZAC with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from South Australia to Queensland 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from New Britain to 35 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 47 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Shan State to Malaya 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 56 Sea Zone to Northern Australia 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 3 submarines and 2 transports moved from 42 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Jehol to Japan 1 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 2 infantry moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Shantung 1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern Manchuria 3 infantry placed in Shantung 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 3 infantry placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Malaya 3 infantry placed in Queensland Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -2.17 UK_Pacific regular : 0.67 ANZAC regular : -1.33

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria 1 fighter moved from Egypt to Syria 2 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria 1 infantry moved from Anglo-Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia Italians take Ethiopia from British 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Kursk to Rostov 1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Gibraltar Combat - Italians Battle in Gibraltar Battle in Syria Italians attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 3/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Syria Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Syria from British with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 3 fighters moved from Syria to 99 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Place Units - Italians 1 fighter and 1 submarine placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 carrier placed in 99 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 23 PUs; end with 24 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1.33 British regular : -0.33

@Martin

42251-oob-round-03-italy.tsvg

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Rhodesia Italians take Rhodesia from British Combat - Italians Non Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4 Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

@FranceNeedsMorePower

Well, the moderator of the league is gamerman01, so he knows best, but I will take a quick stab at it here.

Attack orders/Scramble requests: Generally once you send the request, these attack orders become locked in. You can’t ask about scrambling, get a response you don’t really like, then change your mind and change up the attacks.

Attack rolls:
Once you start, you have to at least finish 1 round of attacks and then retreat if you made a mistake or its not going your way. You can do as much “simulation” gaming as you wish with local rolls, but once they are sent to the dice server, thy are locked in and cannot be changed. If there is an obvious blunder made, like in your case bringing in the transports, that can be addressed after the attacks are resolved - that would have been an easy edit back.

When is it OK to make edits?
Generally, when all the main dice rolls have completed, the Non-Combat Move phase is moves unaffected by dice. Most players allow virtually as much edits as you need here, provided the other side hasn’t started their turn. If you have significant edits to make, you should post quickly and ask the other player to hold off until you complete them. Forgotten obvious walk-in attacks or killing of defenseless transports are a bit more gray, but most players here will allow this to take place as well if you missed something. If it is justifiable that the move “would not have been affected by any of the dice outcomes”, this is usually permitted, but should be requested, as your opponent could technically deny it, as it needed to be included with your initial Combat phase declarations. Most people here are pretty casual and out for a fun game, so aren’t sticklers about this, but then some are.