League General Discussion Thread

crockett36

@djensen Thank you! Nice to see you in person in Dayton. Sorry I didn’t get to shake your hand and thank you in person for all your work.

gamerman01

Taking signups through 12/31 for 2025 playoffs starting January 2026:

We have 6 OOB signups so far

Only 1 BM

Only 3 PTV

Let me know if you want in the playoffs,
3 games OOB, 3 games PTV, or 6 games BM are required to enter

Brackets and seedings are determined by end of year ELO rank

Martin

I give order for a ceasefire today - Merry Christmas 🎅

axis-dominion

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Taking signups through 12/31 for 2025 playoffs starting January 2026:

We have 6 OOB signups so far

Only 1 BM

Only 3 PTV

Let me know if you want in the playoffs,
3 games OOB, 3 games PTV, or 6 games BM are required to enter

Brackets and seedings are determined by end of year ELO rank

bm signup has the least turnout so far, and yet the highest entry requirement at 6 games. i think you should relax that down to 3 like the other games as bm is no longer the most popular and, is likely the least popular of the three at this point.

simon33

I wonder why BM is the least popular now? Perhaps purists stick to G40 while those wanting to move on have gone to PtV?

Only 9 people have qualified for the playoff, so to get a full playoff only one person can opt out. Let’s wait and see though.

BM & PtV both have 69 games completed and OOB only 57 so I guess you can argue that the discrepancy isn’t justified.

mikawagunichi

@simon33 I think that is correct in general. Also worth noting the YoY decline in PTV games is mostly due to a few select players who played fewer games this year but are still highly active (i.e. me) so in reality I’d still say PTV is the most popular.

simon33

@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Let’s wait and see though.

I suppose this may not be advised. There are only about 4 days left for signups. Perhaps @Adam514, @Ghostglider , @zarhunter, @pacifiersboard can let us know that they are out and if so, Gamerman01 can change the requirement. There are 3 players with 5 games, none with 4 and only 2 with 3. So it doesn’t actually make that much difference, except that I may be bumped to the second bracket which I wouldn’t love.

Booper

@simon33

Could make it that everyone who didn’t fulfill the requirements, but is willing to play to fill out the playoff bracket should automatically rank below anyone who did fulfill the official requirements.

Ghostglider

I would like to participate in playoff for both BM and PTV, thanks.

dawgoneit

I was out for 6 months for loosing some family members. and i have the most games of all time and i only qualify for 1.

simon33

@dawgoneit said in League General Discussion Thread:

I was out for 6 months for loosing some family members. and i have the most games of all time and i only qualify for 1.

Multiple! Sorry for your losses.

gamerman01

Very interesting!

Great points.

Apparently BM did decline significantly in 2025. The rules are set in January, so a year ago 3, 3, and 6 were the right requirements. They could be changed at the end of the year, but only if participants agree, because all year everyone was operating under the knowledge that it took 6 BM games to qualify. The 3 game minimums are also a factor for some players, deciding on the timing and mode to play during the year. So as far as 6 being too many, well, BM can simply be changed to 3 for 2026, but

We seem to be fine for 2025 and it’s not 12/31 yet.
Farmboy might be arranging for his 6th BM completion game

One or two who have 5 games - not sure they have been around lately anyway.

Zarhunter just signed up, so even without farmboy we have 7, which would be one bye for Axis-Dominion which isn’t really a problem. So as Simon noted, even if I were to change the requirement to 3 right now after the whole year is over, it would hardly even make a difference anyway, surprisingly.

So we have 7 for BM and there will be 1 bye, or in the event that farmboy gets 6 and wants in, there will be a perfect 8. BM minimum requirement will be lowered to 3 games for 2026

axis-dominion

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

Very interesting!

Great points.

Apparently BM did decline significantly in 2025. The rules are set in January, so a year ago 3, 3, and 6 were the right requirements. They could be changed at the end of the year, but only if participants agree, because all year everyone was operating under the knowledge that it took 6 BM games to qualify. The 3 game minimums are also a factor for some players, deciding on the timing and mode to play during the year. So as far as 6 being too many, well, BM can simply be changed to 3 for 2026, but

We seem to be fine for 2025 and it’s not 12/31 yet.
Farmboy might be arranging for his 6th BM completion game

One or two who have 5 games - not sure they have been around lately anyway.

Zarhunter just signed up, so even without farmboy we have 7, which would be one bye for Axis-Dominion which isn’t really a problem. So as Simon noted, even if I were to change the requirement to 3 right now after the whole year is over, it would hardly even make a difference anyway, surprisingly.

So we have 7 for BM and there will be 1 bye, or in the event that farmboy gets 6 and wants in, there will be a perfect 8. BM minimum requirement will be lowered to 3 games for 2026

Thanks gamer! I definitely would want farmboy in even with 5 games, wouldn’t make sense for the defending champ to miss the requirement by 1 game lol

simon33

I did prod farmboy for a game in September and reminded him of the qualification requirements but he thought he had enough games on his plate. Not sure his current game will be wrapped up but I guess he always has the option to concede the loss at any time, even if he thinks he is winning.

Thought pacifiersboard might play. Adam sitting it out again, it seems.

farmboy

I expect to be joining the bm tournament at least and will concede that game to do so if needed. Still 3 days left to play so will make the decision last minute

simon33

We still need an 8th for OOB. Is @gamerman01 interested?

gamerman01

Thanks Simon,

I’m involved in a couple A&A competitions here on A&A.org, (including the 2024 playoffs) where 1 game led to another. I hesitate to enter because I haven’t started game 2 of the 2024 playoffs yet.

BUT if other participants in OOB 2025 playoff are OK with me being slow to catch up, then I would join. I think it’s a bad look for me to enter and be slow, but if no one protests, well…

gamerman01

@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:

I’m involved in a couple A&A competitions here on A&A.org, (including the 2024 playoffs) where 1 game led to another.

Classic double elimination tournament, 2v2 G40 tournament, and the 2024 playoffs

I’m in the last game of the 2v2 and not too much left in that Classic tournament, and not accepting any more games so maybe I am viable for 2025 playoff, especially if the 8 seed isn’t as much trouble as Pacifier was

oysteilo

I am not qualified, but would participate if invited…:)

gamerman01

I’m going to grant you the same exception as farmboy in BM. He was one game short but in round 19 of a game that just can’t be called yet, and he is a key player in that playoff.

You are in a 2 year long 21 round struggle that can’t be decided yet, and are also 1 game short and a key player, and you want in.

@oysteilo I’m entering you in the OOB playoff, very similar circumstance to farmboy where a long game shouldn’t be called quite yet

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