Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 16 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima Combat - Americans Battle in Iwo Jima Non Combat Move - Americans 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 16 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 17 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima 2 carriers and 4 fighters moved from 7 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 fighter moved from Aleutian Islands to Siberia 2 bombers moved from Alaska to Siberia 1 bomber moved from Western United States to Siberia 1 armour moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 63 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 11 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar Chinese take Chahar from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar 1 fighter moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Suiyuyan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 10 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 97 Sea Zone 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya British take Libya from Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to 98 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia 1 battleship moved from 76 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Egypt to Ethiopia Combat - British Battle in 97 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 5 destroyers and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 55 Casualties for British: 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports Battle in Ethiopia British attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Italians defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry 1 armour owned by the British retreated to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8 Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 fighters moved from West India to 80 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Egypt 1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Egypt 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to United Kingdom 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 3 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to Eastern Persia Place Units - British 1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 80 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Persia 2 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs Turn Complete - UK_PacificLeague General Discussion Thread
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I would rather play the OOB version. its what the league is built on and the reason all of are playing rite. the PTV does not reflect the A&A we’re all used to. not even close to the OOB version for rules. my self i think it should be played in the play boardgame forum not the league. BM3 is close and i play it because thats what everybody wants to play. when i play the OOB version on the board with my friends they are pretty strict with not altering the rules. they also don’t play on the site because its not about the OOB version played all the time. my self i play a lot of different games here and i love this site. just my take on things. i hope i didn’t offend anyone.
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@dawgoneit you won’t be playing in the league finals, your opinion just doesn’t matter in this discussion, sorry to say. If I was playing in the league finals I’d want to play BM3.
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if my opinion don’t matter this should be discussed in a private room then. has the tourney started yet?
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@dawgoneit if you paid attention you would know that the tournament is supposed to start Jan 1
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cool, my bad. I’ll stay out of things. thank you all for the info.
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Easy on the Veterans here @bretters.
I totally understand your point @dawgoneit and I think it will be considered since a lot of people here do still play OoB here. Maybe just not more frequently than the BM in League games these days.
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BM3 is good with me. didn’t mean to anger anyone. I do like that version also.
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Dawgs input is welcome as well. How the league determines playoffs should be a question that everyone who is playing in league can speak to, although I assume gamerman gets to make the final decision. In past years, multiple playoffs have been set up to include people below the top 8. The point is to find rules that are inclusive enough of the different preferences people have, so that people are not discouraged from participating.
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I played in the B-final last season and was tricked into playing OOBsolete. Never again.
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@trulpen hahaha… neither would i dude, neither would I!
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@dawgoneit because PTV is an elevated game, haha. Also… most people are still playing BM3 more than PTV.
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Hmm, perhaps P2V should have a separate league. I guess Gamerman01 wouldn’t really want to moderate two leagues though. I would consider doing it.
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Maybe it is self-explanatory, but isn’t really the main issue here that people tend to play different versions (OOB, BM3 and P2V) depending on what they prefer, which may then be a problem when deciding what to play, especially in the playoffs? The fact that there is more than one game to choose from is not in itself a problem, I don’t think.
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I am fairly sure you can play in the top 8 group and INSIST on playing OOB. Unless the rules has been changed recently… I am not saying you should, although i dont understand why you automatically should be disqualified because everyone wants to play BM and you dont.
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It could be relevant now to have 3 leagues OOB, BM3 and PtV
OOB and BM are becoming more and more different these days. When BM first came out bids of ~6 for axis were common. Now we are approaching 30 for allies…
I think i would prefer 3 leagues now
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@oysteilo said in League General Discussion Thread:
It could be relevant now to have 3 leagues OOB, BM3 and PtV
OOB and BM are becoming more and more different these days. When BM first came out bids of ~6 for axis were common. Now we are approaching 30 for allies…
I think i would prefer 3 leagues now
But as someone who plays multiple formats (BM3 AND PTV) I wouldn’t want it to be separated into separate leagues.
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@bretters said in League General Discussion Thread:
@oysteilo said in League General Discussion Thread:
It could be relevant now to have 3 leagues OOB, BM3 and PtV
OOB and BM are becoming more and more different these days. When BM first came out bids of ~6 for axis were common. Now we are approaching 30 for allies…
I think i would prefer 3 leagues now
But as someone who plays multiple formats (BM3 AND PTV) I wouldn’t want it to be separated into separate leagues.
And those who prefer OOB, they shouldnt have a playoff then???
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@oysteilo the 2 or 3 people who prefer bm3 can certainly have their own playoff…
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@oysteilo
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sorry OOB





