56e4d171-7828-44f4-91f2-f4a99e24c401-triplea_42300_3- usa, chi, uk.tsvg Game History
Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Malta to Western Germany 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra 2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 8 and causes: 8 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 8 damage total. Battle in Borneo Battle in Sumatra Battle in 25 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans win, taking Borneo from Japanese, taking Sumatra from Japanese with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from British Columbia to Alaska 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 infantry moved from Brazil to French Guiana 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 cruiser moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western United States to Eastern United States 2 aaGuns moved from Western United States to Central United States Place Units - Americans 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 3 destroyers placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in 10 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 17 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 17 infantry Japanese defend with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry 1 fighter owned by the Chinese retreated 2 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Szechwan Japanese win with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9 Casualties for Chinese: 15 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 3 artilleries and 8 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Szechwan 1 infantry placed in Kansu 1 infantry placed in Shensi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 artillery moved from India to Burma 2 cruisers moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 81 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 artillery moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland British take British Somaliland from Italians 1 bomber moved from Malta to 95 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in Southern France Battle in 95 Sea Zone British attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 transport British win, taking Southern France from Italians with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 37 Casualties for British: 2 destroyers and 1 submarine Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Burma British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Northern Italy British converts factory_major into different units Non Combat Move - British 3 fighters moved from Malta to Persia 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Persia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Burma 1 aaGun moved from India to Burma 1 infantry moved from West India to India 2 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Malta 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 armour moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt Place Units - British 1 airfield, 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantryLeague General Discussion Thread
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@GovZ said in League General Discussion Thread:
Instead of tech being random, my play group is toying with the idea that certain techs are activated once a power takes a specific action. It would work a lot like a one time NO. Examples would be the UK getting Paratroopers the first time it attacks Holland or Japan gaining Shipyards after building an AB on the Solomons. We haven’t played a game - or even figured out how all the techs would work - so I have no idea how this would impact gameplay.
I really like this idea although the actuality of the details might make it less likeable. It’s always struck me as weird that you invest in research and can’t direct where the investment goes!
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@Stucifer So far, I am really enjoying our first game of G42. We played with a 7 bid to the axis and japan feels super strong. Germany feels weak.
Overall, the setup from G42 is very similar to the setup for 42SE, but obviously the rules and map are different.
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@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:
I really like this idea although the actuality of the details might make it less likeable. It’s always struck me as weird that you invest in research and can’t direct where the investment goes!
The way I think of it is the nation is pouring a lot of money into all kinds of research, but only breakthrough here or there, or the breakthrough comes too late, and it is very unpredictable.
Think German rockets, German jets (too late), atomic bombs (never), for example
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@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:
I really like this idea although the actuality of the details might make it less likeable. It’s always struck me as weird that you invest in research and can’t direct where the investment goes!
The way I think of it is the nation is pouring a lot of money into all kinds of research, but only breakthrough here or there, or the breakthrough comes too late, and it is very unpredictable.
Think German rockets, German jets (too late), atomic bombs (never), for example
Having played with tech a lot, I would counter this and say that you are not going to pull a fish from a pond you are not fishing in. For the US to get radar is nonsensical except in a house rule where you allow allied sharing (historically accurate for the Anglo-American alliance). I will tell you that the different charts (ponds) make it so that your chance of getting the tech you want go up as you possess almost every tech on that chart.
Please remember that I am always writing as a playtester who might influence some future game designer who might update the rules for the next generation of players. We need another great WW2 movie! Anyone doing anything to celebrate/commemorate our victory 80 years ago May or September?
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We need another great WW2 movie! Anyone doing anything to celebrate/commemorate our victory 80 years ago May or September?
I have been watching several World at War documentary sections with my 24 y/o son. We just watched 50 minute on Stalingrad last night. Several of the things on the maps really made me think of G40 A&A, the turning down by Rostov to the oil fields of the Caucasus, for example. Luftwaffe support pounding Stalingrad. What an absolute nightmare, the documentaries have made me quit playing A&A for awhile in past years.
The World at War series done by the UK in the early 70’s is particularly good. They interviewed a lot of different officials, generals, and normal people and use only authentic footage as they make a montage. HIGHLY recommended by me.
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@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
I think the rule was largely a reaction to Axis bombing of Moscow.
I don’t think I said this before but if that what the 14IPC bombers were for, I think the change was misguided. I think SBR should be part of the game. And as for your theory about stopping/weakening dark skies, I’ve never really seen anyone do this but I can’t imagine that it isn’t easy enough for USA to counter with just a slightly larger fleet than normal. While this soaks up some of their income, it also costs Germany a significant number of its land units.
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@simon33 I think @Arthur-Bomber-Harris would have something to say about this…He’s a big proponent of dark skies and having played against him, it’s not so easy to dismiss. The reach of bombers in the European map is quite effective. And yes the Allies can buy more CVs + ftrs, but that slows down their invasion time tables and allows the Germans to advance.
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@simon33 can you do anything about the triple a programming for casualty choices? It would be a big improvement if the engine would, when enemy destroyers are present, roll the subs separately but NOT require a casualty choice before rolling all else.
Then let player choose the appropriate casualties, that is, a ship hit or sunk for each sub hitIt’s a problem
It seems like, with the other capabilities of tripleA, it’s probably not even difficult
What do you think? Thanks!!!
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@gamerman01 That is beyond my ability. Or at least not at all easy, and even if I could do it, there is no guarantee they would adopt it. A few years back there was a poll for what priorities there should be for engine changes and this was one of the options and I’m pretty sure I was the only one who voted for this change. Really annoyed me.
Gamerman01 - Edited out last sentence per Simon’s request
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Just so long as no one attacking asks for casualty selection when the subs have shot but the defender has a DD, it’s not too much of a problem. If the assumption is wrong, just use forum dice. I suppose if you’re attacking subs in a mixed fleet and as the attacker you have a DD can be an issue but usually not.
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Thanks!!!
Now kindly remind me in the future when I forget this helpful answer please
I have old dad brain -
Remind me in a kind way, when I forget and bring it up again, I mean
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@simon33 you’re right, I know
It’s a bit inconvenient but we have workarounds when necessary -
Maybe a note in the league rules for how to deal with this limitation, then I don’t think I would have to remind you.
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@gamerman01 let me guess… you got badly diced again by a destroyer in your playoff game?
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@Arthur-Bomber-Harris said in League General Discussion Thread:
@gamerman01 let me guess… you got badly diced again by a destroyer in your playoff game?
No but I am getting diced so hard there
It hasn’t stopped. But Midway could make it all moot. Or make me give up A&A for a year. Both are possible -
P Panther forked this topic on
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Update
Reverse Midway happened, so won’t be giving up A&A for a year at this time.
Lot of fighting to go, @pacifiersboard playing very tough, and a peek at his other first round game says he’s playing great there too
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@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
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Reverse Midway happened, so won’t be giving up A&A for a year at this time.
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@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
t would be a big improvement if the engine would, when enemy destroyers are present, roll the subs separately but NOT require a casualty choice before rolling all else.
Then let player choose the appropriate casualties, that is, a ship hit or sunk for each sub hitIn case you’re not aware of it, you can fight battles in edit and pick casualties the way you would in person. Dice rolls still show up in History.
Idk if it’d help in this case or not but it’s a nice option to know about.
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@gamerman01 When you edit the League Rules post can you maybe point out what you edited. I realize it may just be grammar or something, but I can’t tell what changes are made and it would be nice to know :)





