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@dawgoneit Scramble SZ 35?

I made the edit. Also adjusted my UK ncms through editing as well.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus 2 armour moved from Rostov to Southern Caucasus Italians take Northern Caucasus from Russians 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Southern Caucasus Italians attack with 3 armour and 1 bomber Russians defend with 1 armour Italians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 bomber in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Southern Caucasus 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Southern Caucasus Italians win, taking Southern Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Italians 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Ukraine 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 4 carriers, 8 fighters and 2 submarines moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -1.00 Russians regular : 0.50

Savegame

@Martin

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Game History

Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 8 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam Japanese take Siam from UK_Pacific 6 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 2 artilleries moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 3 cruisers, 3 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Malaya 2 bombers, 5 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Yunnan Combat - Japanese Battle in 35 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 35 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in 42 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 42 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport Battle in 37 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports ANZAC defend with 2 destroyers Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 2 destroyers in 37 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese 2 destroyers owned by the ANZAC lost in 37 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 2 battleships, 4 carriers, 3 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16 Casualties for ANZAC: 2 destroyers Battle in Malaya Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Malaya, round 2 : 5/10 hits, 4.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Malaya Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 6 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers British defend with 6 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 6 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers in Yunnan, round 2 : 8/19 hits, 8.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 6 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 4/6 hits, 2.00 expected hits 4 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 6 infantry owned by the British lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 4 infantry Casualties for British: 6 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 5 fighters moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 37 Sea Zone 2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 3 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China Place Units - Japanese Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kiangsu: 3 mech_infantrys EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kwangsi: 3 mech_infantrys EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu 8 infantry placed in Japan 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 2.00 Japanese regular : -1.50 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 ANZAC regular : 1.33

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 6 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France Combat - Americans Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 cruiser owned by the Americans scoring 2 hits. Rolls: 2,2 1 cruiser owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 cruiser owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 3,5 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 5 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 1 hits. Rolls: 2 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone Strategic bombing raid in France Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in France rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in France causes 3 damage total. Battle in Guam Battle in 6 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Battle in Korea Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom Place Units - Americans 1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Western United States 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 4 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone British take 106 Sea Zone from Germans 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Egypt to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in 91 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 91 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter could not land in 99 Sea Zone and was removed 1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to British Guiana 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Iceland to United Kingdom Place Units - British 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 81 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 71 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Americans regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : 1.67 Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : 0.83 British regular : 0.00

Savegame

@aequitas-et-veritas

I’m not at a computer, can you post the scenario?

@666

no scramble

I’m not sure what you mean, so I’ll try to clarify.

My move was made with a big Russian stack in Burma instead of Yunnan. You told me I didn’t have the latest map. I said I’d have to re-do the turn then.

I might have confused the issue when I joined you in talking about the move, by saying that at first I thought about attacking Yunnan anyway, but this time with the rest of the units on FIC. But like I said I didn’t like that attack, and why. That was just hypothetical talk.

Since I had to re-do my turn, all the dice rolled the first time didn’t matter. I lose my win in Brazil, you lose your hits in Russia and China, etc. I lose my win in Yunnan. All of that was in a “fantasy world” because I had the wrong map.

I don’t know how we would handle it any other way, so I’m curious what you are thinking. You made a massive change to the board after I downloaded the map. For some reason I never saw your edit. Everyone allows it almost all the time, but technically when we post the move, it’s final unless you ask if it’s OK to edit. It’s common practice to do what you did, and I’ve done it many times, so it’s generally accepted as OK and I accepted yours as OK.

I have to re-do my turn because I missed your subsequent edit, and that was quite disappointing. If you’re saying some of the dice should stand, or that you’re not sure what should be done, just let me know what you have in mind. I’d love to keep my win in Brazil. But when I faced a drastically different situation in Yunnan I had to re-do my turn, and to me it was obvious that my first play on the unedited map was void.

Again, I’m not sore, just tell me what you aren’t sure about because it sounds like you’re unsure. But I think my telling you that I’m looking at it all as a clean slate and the move I made before is just totally void like it never happened, that maybe that clears it up for you?