Game History
Round: 8 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shantung to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Jehol to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Shantung to Kiangsi 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kiangsi 1 marine moved from Kwangtung to 21 Sea Zone 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 5 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea 1 fighter moved from Japan to 22 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 22 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Kiangsi Japanese attack with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 4 artilleries and 9 infantry Japanese win, taking Kiangsi from Chinese with 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25 Casualties for Japanese: 6 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 artilleries and 9 infantry Battle in 36 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 2 transports Americans defend with 1 destroyer Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer Battle in Paulau Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Paulau from Americans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Korea Japanese attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 marine Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians with 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 13 infantry and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 aaGun moved from Southern Manchuria to Korea 1 aaGun moved from Anhwe to Shantung 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Java to 43 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 22 Sea Zone to Davao Place Units - Japanese 3 infantry placed in Shantung 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in Japan 1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1 Japanese collect 44 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 44 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 47 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUsLeague General Discussion Thread
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@gamerman01 said in Find League Opponents Thread:
Yeah, I like the concept of UKP & ANZAC economies (and pieces?) merged. It was a key feature in a house-ruled version I was working on years ago - didn’t finish because balanced mod came along before I was done.
I don’t like the idea at first hearing. Firstly, where would the capital be? Secondly, wouldn’t one of the locations be massively reinforced while the other is basically ignored. Certainly makes an ANZAC crush more likely. Maybe the Sydney IC would be upgraded to a major? Or add an IC in Queensland?
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Right. Well here are my ideas from years ago when I had thought it all through:
NSW and India are both capitals. If one falls, 1/2 (rounded up) of IPC’s on hand are lost to the conquering power
Without India, NSW cannot collect from West India, Burma, Shan State or Hong Kong, or NO for Malaya
Without NSW, India cannot collect from any Australia/NZ territories, or NO for islandsThe rest you can read at this address: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ujxn3r0e5sekcVPS8CbkH3KByB1iVrNJimiwA3e_BiI/edit#gid=2
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Maybe somebody or I will finish this some day. I came up with a lot of it myself, and looking at it, I remember I had ideas for making convoy rules a lot better.
Basically, you shouldn’t be able to stop all the income in places like Zone 6, Zone 97, Zone 101 (Tokyo, Rome, Washington DC). with a fleet.
But anyway, point is that merging India and Australia does take a lot of other tweaks, you are right. I’ve come up with them years ago, and they are all on this google spreadsheet.
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I see that work is over 8 years old, so I forgot a lot of it. There are some really cool ideas in there, if I do say so myself.
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If you are so keen to speed up the game in a play by forum context why not make the Italians move after France. Also making ussr after Japan but that might require some setup changes at least.
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@simon33 If you are talking about my G40 project from 8 years ago, I don’t even remember turn order ideas.
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OK, looking it over again really fast, France is eliminated as a playable power. It wasn’t about speed, it was about AA50 style 3 on 3, alternating turns. Eliminates the Italy to Germany cheese and the US/UK power move. Turn order is basically AA50, playing 1 power at a time and alternating.
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@gamerman01 said in Find League Opponents Thread:
OK, looking it over again really fast, France is eliminated as a playable power. It wasn’t about speed, it was about AA50 style 3 on 3, alternating turns. Eliminates the Italy to Germany cheese and the US/UK power move. Turn order is basically AA50, playing 1 power at a time and alternating.
I don’t see what is so good about that. You seem really keen to rewind back to AA50, interesting. Have you looked at Ozteas’ 1941 setup? Haven’t played it myself but I understand it effectively advances politics by 2 turns so everything gets going much more quickly I presume.
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@gamerman01 Why not just use Grasshopper’s 3G40 turn order?
Germany
Anzac
Japan
United Kingdom
Italy
China
USSR
USA
FranceVery little cheese, just removes the ability of Italy to can open in the Eastern Front & the same for Germany wrt Italy in Gibraltar
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@simon33 said in [League General Discussion Thread]
I don’t see what is so good about that. You seem really keen to rewind back to AA50, interesting.
I said twice below, this was done EIGHT years ago. That wasn’t long after AA50 was abandoned like yesterday’s newspaper.
Have you looked at Ozteas’ 1941 setup? Haven’t played it myself but I understand it effectively advances politics by 2 turns so everything gets going much more quickly I presume.
No, I just saw the idea about UK/ANZAC being merged and that made me think of my house-ruled game that didn’t get finished.
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@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:
@gamerman01 said in Find League Opponents Thread:
Yeah, I like the concept of UKP & ANZAC economies (and pieces?) merged. It was a key feature in a house-ruled version I was working on years ago - didn’t finish because balanced mod came along before I was done.
I don’t like the idea at first hearing. Firstly, where would the capital be? Secondly, wouldn’t one of the locations be massively reinforced while the other is basically ignored. Certainly makes an ANZAC crush more likely. Maybe the Sydney IC would be upgraded to a major? Or add an IC in Queensland?
I was merely responding to this. Simon was asking how a merged UK/ANZAC could work and so I shared what I had put together 8 years ago, which was during the transition time from AA50 to G40.
France and ANZAC were eliminated as playable powers, so Grasshopper’s turn order doesn’t apply. The turn order idea I had after eliminating France and ANZAC is similar to every single global A&A game that had gone before, including the original, classic, Axis and Allies game, so it really isn’t just about AA50.
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@simon33 Have you ever played 3G40
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@hengst said in League General Discussion Thread:
@simon33 Have you ever played 3G40
No, i haven’t. Seems a bit complicated
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@simon33 If you have questions about the implementation & balance of a combined ANZAC/UKP you should try the variant of the rules which accomplishes it. Try 3G40 on tripleA.
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Haven`t been here for some time.
Is the majority of games now played PTV ? Or BM and older versions are still stronger?
And one more question about bids in BM4. Have they changed much ? What are the average bids these days there?
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@amon-sul welcome back!
the majority is still BM but games of ptv and oob are pretty common too. Bids for BM have moved to around 20 lately (although I think that is a little high).
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Welcome back from me too!
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@farmboy said in League General Discussion Thread:
@amon-sul welcome back!
the majority is still BM but games of ptv and oob are pretty common too. Bids for BM have moved to around 20 lately (although I think that is a little high).
Thanks.
And what about DOV. What is most common for Japan , rd 1, rd 2, rd 3?
And is it much different in PTV?
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@amon-sul Based on the games I have played, J3 seems to be the most common but J1, J2, and J4 are all in the mix too. I’ve used J2 through 4 this year and have had all of them used against me.
I can’t speak to PTV as I haven’t played that yet.
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First call for playoff signups
If you want to play in the playoff(s) STARTING SOON AFTER 12/31/22 and if you have completed 6 games of balanced mod, 3 games of PTV, and/or 3 games of OOB G40 private message me (preferably) or post to league discussion thread. Then you are signed up and will be in the playoffs. There will be a signup sheet in the rankings spreadsheet where you can confirm you are signed up, and you can see who else has signed up.
If you want to be sure you’re in, post or private message your signup before 1/1/23.
Each game version does have more than 8 qualifying players for the playoffs, and if we have at least 8 signups for each game version, there will be a full bracket of 8 for the championship from the 2022 regular season. If you don’t end up in the top 8, you will still get gripping playoff action!
Players may enter the playoff for more than one version if qualifying with minimum games in each (you have a ranking number in the first column, or 2nd column for BM which requires 6 games done). The overall ranking sheet is so that players playing different versions may be compared (and also to count total number of games for purposes of determining how many games you can play against another individual) and so have no bearing on the playoffs. Your seeding and qualifications are determined from your results IN THAT version’s ranking sheet.
Playoffs are primarily for the enjoyment of players and are single elimination - you lose, you go home and cry. Oh wait, you’re already home. You just cry. Of course it was the dice’s fault.
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