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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 2

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Chahar to Inner Mongolia Japanese take Inner Mongolia from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei Japanese take Hopei from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shansi to Honan Japanese take Honan from Chinese 2 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow 1 fighter moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow Combat - Japanese Battle in Kweichow Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Kweichow, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 2.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kweichow 3 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Japanese win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry Battle in Hunan Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 5 infantry Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 5 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 1.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Hunan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hunan 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries and 4 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 1.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hunan, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hunan Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 2/0 hits, 2.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kweichow to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi 1 bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kyushu to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Jehol to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 artilleries moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kyushu to 7 Sea Zone 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Kyushu to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar 1 artillery moved from Shansi to Anhwe 1 mech_infantry moved from Shansi to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan 1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi 1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from New Hebrides to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 marine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Marshall Islands to 55 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Caroline Islands to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Marshall Islands to Caroline Islands 1 aaGun moved from Kyushu to Japan 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 34 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 5 infantry placed in Japan 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 harbour placed in French Indo China Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Japanese regular : -0.33

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@Omni BTW, I’ll be gone until Sunday. Have a good weekend.

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Yaroslavl to Vologda Russians take Vologda from Germans 1 infantry moved from Komi to Evenkiyskiy Russians take Evenkiyskiy from Japanese Combat - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl 1 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kursk to Smolensk 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kursk to Bessarabia 10 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Ukraine 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Urals to Timguska 1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Komi to Timguska 1 infantry moved from Russia to Gorky 2 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Stalingrad to Komi Place Units - Russians 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine 1 infantry placed in Urals 1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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Game History

Round: 7 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 6 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 cruiser moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 3 artilleries moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Finland 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Novgorod 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Finland 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Baltic States 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Romania 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 6 armour, 6 artilleries, 22 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Battle in 115 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 5 transports Russians defend with 1 carrier and 1 destroyer Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 5 transports in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 carrier and 1 destroyer in 115 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 carrier owned by the Russians and 1 destroyer owned by the Russians lost in 115 Sea Zone Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 5 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24 Casualties for Russians: 1 carrier and 1 destroyer Battle in Novgorod Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Novgorod, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 2,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 3 infantry in Novgorod, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Novgorod 3 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry Battle in Romania Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 1 aaGun and 4 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Romania, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 aaGun and 4 infantry in Romania, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 aaGun owned by the Russians lost in Romania Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Romania, round 3 : 2/10 hits, 2,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Romania, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Romania 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Romania Germans win, taking Romania from Russians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Russians: 1 aaGun and 4 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Finland Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 armour Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Finland, round 2 : 3/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Finland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Finland 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Finland Germans win, taking Finland from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1,50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 6 armour, 6 artilleries, 22 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Russians defend with 5 infantry Germans roll dice for 6 armour, 6 artilleries, 22 infantry and 1 mech_infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 13/35 hits, 9,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 5 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 1,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland 5 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 6 armour, 6 artilleries, 21 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 5 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 2 aaGuns moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 1 aaGun moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania 2 carriers moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Finland to Western Germany 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod 1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 125 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Baltic States to 115 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland Place Units - Germans 5 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Germany 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2 Germans collect 46 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 46 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0,83 Germans regular : 5,50

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Italians round 19

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 19 Combat Move - Italians 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Yugoslavia Combat - Italians Battle in Yugoslavia Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Yugoslavia 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Yugoslavia Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Americans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 4 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3,6,3,4,3,6,3,6,4,3,6 Italians collect 0 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 0 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.67 Italians regular : 0.33

Savegame

I am not sure enough about how this ends up.

I will not record a result until I hear again from each of you whether you are resigning or accepting a resignation. Since you’ve had some days to maybe think about it, I wonder what the thoughts are now.

I’m not in a hurry to start the next game, I’m having trouble keeping up with the 3 I have, so take your time.

I think @Arthur-Bomber-Harris said he isn’t too interested in continuing in the playoff anyway, time constraints. That’s fine, and I can understand the resignation, but I don’t want to chalk up a loss to someone who technically won? the game.

I won’t go on and on, I’m an outsider to the game, but I want to float the idea of a “draw”, where @GeneralDisarray advances because ABH willingly forfeits the opportunity to advance in the playoffs, and maybe this game result isn’t recorded in the permanent standings.

Again, I just don’t like the idea of recording a win for General D and a loss for ABH unless for example you were both to say ABH was losing the game anyway.

It would be nice to have some kind of agreement. To me the dream scenario is you reset the battle to the point after ABH saves all subs, but the game is yours (plural)

In case it helps you understand where I’m coming from, I WOULD be happy to conclude this and record ABH loss and General D win, IF General D, um, accepts that