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@GeneralDisarray Please use this file wanted to keep the plane instead of the BS R1!.tsvg

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans

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TripleA Turn Summary: French round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland 3 fighters moved from Queensland to New Guinea 2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq Non Combat Move - ANZAC Place Units - ANZAC 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 17 PUs Politics - French Trigger French Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt 2 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French

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Game History

Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 14 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 2 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Smolensk to Yaroslavl Germans take Yaroslavl from Russians 1 armour moved from Yaroslavl to Smolensk 4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Southern Belarus to Smolensk 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Smolensk 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 bomber moved from Leningrad to Holland Belgium 1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux 1 fighter moved from Egypt to 97 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 3 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Northern Italy to Holland Belgium 1 submarine moved from 128 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy Combat - Germans Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 2.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 artillery in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Normandy Bordeaux Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British with 2 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for British: 1 artillery Battle in Holland Belgium Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 1/10 hits, 4.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Holland Belgium, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 3/10 hits, 4.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 artillery in Holland Belgium, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Americans lost in Holland Belgium Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from France to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to 116 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from 116 Sea Zone to Norway 3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Austria 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Yugoslavia 2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Germany to Austria 2 bombers moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 116 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany 1 fighter moved from Leningrad to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novgorod 1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Northern Belarus 1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa 1 armour moved from Egypt to French Equatorial Africa 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia Place Units - Germans 1 carrier placed in 116 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in Western Germany 1 fighter placed in 116 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in Yugoslavia 1 infantry placed in France 3 infantry placed in Leningrad 2 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -1.00 Germans regular : -3.83 British regular : -0.33

@zlefin I don’t really have a definitive answer here as I rarely end up doing a sea lion. If I do it in the early game, it will be because the axis have a 100% odds and so likely a positive tuv exchange. If I do it later game, its either because I’m close to winning (and so again I’ll probably wait for 100% odds) or I’m desperate and the opportunity arose (where I’m probably more prepared to risk worse odds and a potential tuv loss.

I tend to scramble 110 and 111 if the outcome in each battle is a better tuv exchange. The dice can burn you and make you more vulnerable to sea lion. But more often than not, the trade in air makes sea lion harder for the Germans, and one can effectively win a game G1, if the dice burn the axis instead. I also think that aggressive axis openings are often assuming that the allies will avoid the risk of a scramble. In a league setting where how one plays becomes a bit of a known quantity, the fact that I do tends to make axis opponents more risk averse and so I often don’t see both 110 and 111 getting hit.

I also don’t usually do Taranto. I do think it is a good move, but I favour Gibastion, which has the benefit of making sea lion harder even if the dice favoured the axis G1.

@simon33 bump 2.

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 14

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 14 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 airfield and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia Italians take Northwest Persia from Russians 1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov Italians take Rostov from Russians 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia Italians take Ethiopia from British 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo Italians take Belgian Congo from British 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Kenya 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Italian Somaliland 1 submarine moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in Morocco Battle in 76 Sea Zone Italians attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 transport British defend with 1 destroyer Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 76 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 76 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 76 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 76 Sea Zone Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 2 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in Italian Somaliland Battle in Kenya Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Kenya, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Kenya 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kenya Italians win, taking Italian Somaliland from Russians, taking Kenya from British with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 2 aaGuns moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 airfield placed in Gibraltar 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,1,1,4 Italians collect 21 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 33 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 1.83 British regular : 1.33

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Game History

Round: 23 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 artillery, 5 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Paulau to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 22 Sea Zone to Guam 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi Combat - Japanese Battle in 22 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 submarine and 1 transport Americans defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 22 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Americans: 1 transport Battle in Guam Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Guam, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Guam, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Guam Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Guam, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 infantry in Guam, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Guam Americans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Kwangsi Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Kwangsi Japanese win, taking Kwangsi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 2 armour Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.83 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 2 armour in Burma, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese lost in Burma 2 armour owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win with 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Japanese: 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for British: 2 armour Non Combat Move - Japanese 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Davao to 36 Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 2 battleships, 11 carriers, 3 cruisers, 13 destroyers, 8 fighters, 3 infantry, 5 submarines, 4 tactical_bombers and 8 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Malaya 3 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to 38 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Burma to French Indo China 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Shan State 2 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Northern Manchuria to Amur 1 fighter moved from Japan to Amur Place Units - Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Malaya 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in French Indo China 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan 2 submarines placed in 7 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : 1.33 Japanese regular : -3.33 UK_Pacific regular : 1.00