League General Discussion Thread

Martin

Are the old games / game threads archived anywhere?

I wanted to have a look at some old OOB playoff games, but noticed that in “Post League Game Results Here” there is no result from before the year 2018.

Some Playoff games in the league rankings spreadsheet show a game ID. But entering these into the URL leads to an error message (“not found”).

Does anyone know, or is this rather a question for Dave Jensen? It would be a pity if legendary OOB battles would be lost forever.

gamerman01

Yes, ask Dave, maybe they were archived off-line.

There would be some hope that a player involved in one of those old games actually saved the file themselves. Ask them if they have it. You would probably also need to install an old version of Triple A.

Depending on how badly you want one, it is possible to reconstruct them if the Triple A game summaries are intact. I haven’t had enough time to get very far, but I am reconstructing the 2013 OOB championship game. So far it’s worth it, the G1 was wild. Let 110 (and 111?) go, used the aircraft to overwhelm Paris, sending fast movers immediately at Russia, complete with a slingshot on Yugo.

Martin

Thank you - I will ask Dave and eventually some players

gamerman01

Ghostglider v gamerman01 2014 champ J2.tsvg

Here’s G1 and R1 of the 2014 championship
I was putting it together in case crockett36 wanted to review an old one

gamerman01

But yes, exhaust options 1 and 2 first.
I thought I would have saved my old save files, but maybe didn’t survive transitions to new computers over the years

Martin

Where did you get the old game results before 2018 from? Is there another thread than “Post League Game Results Here”?

Martin

Ah, forget about the last question - I did not think of the League Ranking table which I mentioned myself, LOL :-)

gamerman01

@Martin Yes, we used to have a separate thread for each year.
2017 - 28656
2016 - 26706
2015 - 24308
2014 - 21921
2013 - 18628

gamerman01

Those will point you to the actual games.
Yes, the league rankings spreadsheet goes all the way back, and so does the current ELO spreadsheet - dates, players, sides, who won, bids

Martin

Awesome - thank you very much! I will look into this and maybe post a few final games for the ones who might be interested. If and once I find them.

gamerman01

Let us know what Dave says, and maybe just put out the general call (like I guess we are right now) for any players who actually saved Triple A files from many years ago.

Kind of surprised mine only go back to 2020

gamerman01

But again, for a particularly momentous game, they CAN be re-created. At least until they’re not interesting any more.

Martin

I did not understand what you were talking about with “recreating games”, until I noticed that only the game history is shown in these old threads but not the saved game posted.

How did that work? Were the saved games only shared by email and not posted?

Re-creating must be a nightmare with millions of edits…

Adam514

@Martin said in League General Discussion Thread:

I did not understand what you were talking about with “recreating games”, until I noticed that only the game history is shown in these old threads but not the saved game posted.

How did that work? Were the saved games only shared by email and not posted?

Re-creating must be a nightmare with millions of edits…

They were deleted to make space on the site.

Martin

@Adam514 that makes sense - thank you

gamerman01

See what Dave says - hopefully he moved them off-line but I’m not holding my breath.

Yeah I’m just saying it’s possible to recreate them from the posted text. You don’t have to edit everything, you can make the purchases and moves and then edit to the dice results.

Not as tedious as entering in all past game results to the ELO spreadsheet back to 2011. But tedious enough you’d only want to do it for the best games.

Amon-Sul

@gamerman01

Do we have statistics for 2023 - percentage of wins by axis, and the same for allies

OOB
BM
PTV

and overall?

thanks

gamerman01

@MrRoboto is the designer and computer guy who could easily do that but he’s been away several weeks

He needs to show me some things about his system in case he’s gone.

pacifiersboard

@Amon-Sul

2023
overall
123 Axis : 101 Allies
OOB
34 X : 19 L
BM
60 : 59
PTV
29 : 23

Martin

Dear all,

with great regret I inform you that Trulpen has lost his biggest battle and is no longer with us – much too young at the age of 47.

For those who do not know him – he was a very strong (and sometimes controversial) A&A player. In 2022, before he stopped playing A&A for health reasons, he reached the Playoff Finals of both BM and PtV. He also was a strong Chess player and Chess blogger.

Me personally, I remember Trulpen as a strong and very helpful player. He was my first ever opponent on this forum. Of course he killed me, LOL :-) He actually played everyone that wanted, up to 11 games in parallel, not caring about losing PPGs even if winning. Had he avoided playing against Tier 2 and 3 players, his table ranking would have been higher. But he didn’t.

Trulpen was always ready to help and gladly answered any question you might have on A&A strategies and tactics; and he commented on your games against him.

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