Game History
Round: 2 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 unit repaired. 2 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 118 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 119 Sea Zone to Scotland Combat - Germans Air Battle in United Kingdom Germans attacks with 2 units heading to United Kingdom Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3,8 and causes: 11 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 11 damage total. Battle in Scotland Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 4 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Scotland from British, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 4 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in 118 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 3 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in 104 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 destroyer Germans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Cleaning up after air battles Non Combat Move - Germans 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 118 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 2 armour moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 aaGun moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Germany 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Romania to Slovakia Hungary 5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary 3 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany 3 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier and 6 transports placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUsLeague General Discussion Thread
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I reckon it isn’t picking it up rather than there being something else wrong
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@simon33 said in League General Discussion Thread:
I reckon it isn’t picking it up rather than there being something else wrong
This could be because the original BM was installed on it. Before BM was included in the map package. I think you had to unzip the map package and put some other stuff in it. If you can find this, you could resolve the problem. HTH. Just one idea.
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@gamerman01 @Soulblighter moving this here if that is alright since this is the discussion page. I was going to add that the 97 attack is a bit less common now I think so the sub in 98 is less common too. I tend to place my bid to constrain G1 choices so usually subs in 91 and 106 or around the UK.
I think gamerman is right that the bid has gotten a little high. But if and when @axis-dominion, @JDOW and @Adam514 rejoin the league, we might find it a little low. :)
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@farmboy said in League General Discussion Thread:
@gamerman01 @Soulblighter moving this here if that is alright since this is the discussion page. I was going to add that the 97 attack is a bit less common now I think so the sub in 98 is less common too. I tend to place my bid to constrain G1 choices so usually subs in 91 and 106 or around the UK.
I think gamerman is right that the bid has gotten a little high. But if and when @axis-dominion, @JDOW and @Adam514 rejoin the league, we might find it a little low. :)
idk. I don’t think it changes anything for g1. I saw a few interesting choices for allied bids. Mostly regarding putting a transport near SA to get those two inf faster north and a marine near india. I think those two make more sense as they allow uk to deal with a few things uk needs to deal with fast.
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I’m guilty of keeping a conversation going in the wrong thread - AGAIN
Thanks Farmboy
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Man it hurts to lose that destroyer/transport off Canada (106)
Subs to UK in favorite G1 targets would seem to be the most effective. 110, 111, 106
To me the game is all about the German/Russian front, as in earlier versions, and as it should be. Raising chance to bring down German planes and/or saving some fleet is the best use of a bid IMO.
I always take sub 98 and hit 97 because I got burned by skipping 97 once. Hard. Probably did the wrong thing. Italy went wild and helped on India, and that’s curtains.
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@gamerman01 I like the gib air base move as my UK1. It doesn’t knock the italian fleet out but it contains it and conserves the UK navy to threaten both Germany and Italy. So the sub in 91 both protects that cruiser (which I’ve also seen as a target that can mess up my UK plans) and gives you a way to hit the Italian destroyer without trading your own or risking a plane.
@soulblighter I do the marine in India if I’m confident that axis aren’t going for a J1 or J2 (some players are pretty consistently a J3). I’m sure a transport off SA works well if you are going to hit Italy in Africa hard on UK1/2 and get the Mid East. But the subs in the Atlantic make German naval attacks riskier and I find it helps me set up the allies in the atlantic more quickly.
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@gamerman01 I agree, but G1 needs to get rid of the fleet either way. Also 106 is a 50/50 shot regardless. So it feels pointless to put something there. It would be better to put something somewhere where you know it will be effective, like the 98 sub.
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A sub in z106 is actually a great spot for a sub. It forces G to use 2 subs if they want to hit the des and tr. That means one less sub in z111. All of three of z91/110/111 have merits, but I think z91 and z111 are better.
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You pretty much need 3 subs in SZ106 to be somewhat confident to take that transport. Everything else is a coinflip.
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Right, I forgot 91 in my list.
106 is big because if G sends 2 it’s still very risky as Pejon said. If G1 doesn’t attempt 106, 1 sub can’t attack anything.If you’re not going to attack 97, no use putting a sub in 98 unless you’re putting one in 91 and gonna use sub in 98 to attack 96.
Anyway, I’m a strong believer that you use your whole bid on UK subs, with extra going whatever. Nobody does it, but infantry in France could be good.
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@pejon_88 said in League General Discussion Thread:
You pretty much need 3 subs in SZ106 to be somewhat confident to take that transport. Everything else is a coinflip.
I prefer the coinflip of 2 subs though. 3 subs just means a juicy target for UK with the DD from SZ109 and probably the bomber.
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^ also with a 3 sub attack, UK should probably submerge a bid sub and then use it to counter attack.
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On the bids they should be used to do one of two things:
- nerf an axis attack
- allow or strengthen an allied attack
The SZ106 bid does achieve this to some degree but I think much less than either the Scottish fighter bid (which for some reason isn’t used as much any more) or the combo bid with +16 of ftr malta and sub SZ98. This allows a Taranto with sending in the CV, mostly. Main risk being if they don’t scramble and don’t get a defensive hit (roughly 16%) you lose the CV as it has to move in to capture the plane which came from UK.
I reckon if I had a 20 bid I would put down an artillery in Kweichow. Gives China more fight against a J3 DOW.
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@simon33 Fig in Scotland probably not used since it costs 10IPC, a sub only 6IPC.
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@pejon_88 said in League General Discussion Thread:
@simon33 Fig in Scotland probably not used since it costs 10IPC, a sub only 6IPC.
I think a better bang for buck though.
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In that specific sea zone, yes, but consider 10 IPC for a fig or 12 IPC for 2 sub (i e z106/111).
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The sub may submerge, so z111 is a great spot since Germany lacks des.
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I would rather have the Scottish fighter than 2 subs. Makes it hard to attack both fleets as Germany.
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@simon33 I wold prefer art + sub most situations
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