@GeneralDisarray Game History
Round: 1 Bid Purchase - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery and 1 submarine; 0 PU unused Bid Placement - Germans 1 submarine placed in 120 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Holland Belgium Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Broken Switch: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 2 submarines moved from 120 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 121 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 116 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Norway to 114 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux 1 armour moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Austria to France 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Austria to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 fighter moved from Poland to Yugoslavia 1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France Combat - Germans Battle in 109 Sea Zone Germans attack with 2 submarines British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British win with 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4 Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Battle in 113 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser; French defend with 1 cruiser Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 34 Casualties for French: 1 cruiser Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser Battle in 114 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 37 Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer Battle in Yugoslavia Germans attack with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 9 infantry Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in France Germans attack with 5 armour, 3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery; French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Germans captures 19PUs while taking French capital Germans converts factory_major into different units Germans win, taking France from French with 5 armour, 2 artilleries and 5 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 6 infantry Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French triggerFrenchDestroyPUsGermans: Setting destroysPUs to true for playerAttachment attached to French Non Combat Move - Germans 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to France 1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux 2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Denmark to 115 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Norway 1 infantry moved from Denmark to Western Germany Place Units - Germans 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 115 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 41 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUsLeague General Discussion Thread
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You cant remove troops from a transport in edit mode during cm/ncm turns, the only way to move those troops entirely is during any other action, like purchase or placement etc.
If you want to move them instead of remove them, you can better use perform move or other actions in the edit mode. Then just click edit mode/perform move or other actions/click on the units you want to move like you would do in either cm/ncm.
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@flyingbadger Thanks. To reproduce load the attached file and attempt to delete those troops sitting on the 4 British transports in SZ98.
I am running Engine Version: 2.5.22294, Java version 11.0.6 BM3 Map 3.4.0
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@lennardf said in League General Discussion Thread:
I am running Engine Version: 2.5.22294, Java version 11.0.6 BM3 Map 3.4.0
I have the same engine and java version. I recreated your actions and got the same error. Tried removing them and the transports they are on and still got that error. Also, tried deleting them in a different phase and this also produced the same error.
I did do as @cds suggested above and I was able to use perform move in edit mode and get them off the transports onto land. Maybe this will be enough for you in this game?
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@flyingbadger Thanks, that looks like it will work. I’ll have to wait until my next turn to do that since it requires being in Combat Move mode and it’s now Germany’s turn but I was able to do a test on Germany’s turn and was able to move them off to Alexandria from where I expect I would be able to use edit to remove them.
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Repair - rule when capital captured - Triple a seems to skip the purchase phase entirely when a capital is captured. This means it skips the part where ships in a navy base can be repaired. The rules say there is zero cost to repair ships. Should ships in a navy base for a country that has lost it’s capital be edited as repaired or should they stay damaged because the engine skips the purchase phase entirely?
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Go with the rulebook - edit as necessary
Interesting glitch
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thx for the reply gamerman. so I can edit them as repaired?
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@gamerman01 said in League General Discussion Thread:
Go with the rulebook - edit as necessary
Interesting glitch
@aagamerz13 said in League General Discussion Thread:
thx for the reply gamerman. so I can edit them as repaired?
No glitch, but the rules. These are the rules, from Pacific 1940.2 rulebook, page 21 :
“The original controller of the captured capital is still in the
game but can’t collect income from any territories he or she
still controls and can’t buy new units. The player skips all but
the Combat Move, Conduct Combat, and Noncombat Move
phases until the capital is liberated.”Repairs take place during the “Purchase and Repair Units” phase.
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@panther Thank you for clarifying this panther.
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Thanks a lot Panther!
I didn’t remember that one! You’re amazing -
So, is this rule only listed in pacific but not the other two? I’ll follow it but it needs to be added for Europe and global for clarification
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nevermind, I found it under combat section in Europe rules. Purchase and repair entirely skipped for lost capital.
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Does anyone know where 666 alias JWW is?
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@aequitas-et-veritas said in League General Discussion Thread:
Does anyone know where 666 alias JWW is?
Travelling
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Thank you for the answer.
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@aequitas-et-veritas Does anyone know if downloading or using the BM4 map will have an adverse affect on the BM3 map? I’m late stages of a BM3 game that I don’t want to mess up but would also like to start a BM4.
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I believe that the game started will stay that version despite updating the map.
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Hi. Need rules clarification:
USA political Sit:
Also, need a clarification on this rule:
“USA political Sit:
If USA is not at war with Germany or Italy, USA may only move its units to sea zones touching USA territories and also Sea Zone 102.
If USA is not at war with Japan, USA may not move its units into sea zones touching Japanese controlled territories.
USA cannot go to war against the Axis until the beginning of PU collect phase of USA 3, unless of course an Axis power attacks it first.
Once at war, the Minor Factories in continental USA upgrade to Major Factories automatically for free, and may be used immediately.”In a game I’m playing, usa declared war at end of round 3 as allowed. However, when I checked the automatic, immediate, and free update did not happen as the factories were still minor after USA 3 but before USA 4. We can edit them to major factories before Usa 4 if usa is at war, right?
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They upgrade at the very end of USA 3 and in any case you are restricted by placement restrictions on usa 3. Also you place new units before you may declare war on usa 3.
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Nevermind I see what happens. If usa buys 10+ units, it gives a message saying do you want to purchase 10+ units when you can only place 9? Usa would say yes to purchase 10+ units. At some point before placement, the factories update so the 10+ units can be placed. What threw me off, since I don’t often make it to the point where usa has to declare war, was the warning message because the update is not immediate but is instead at some point before usa 4 placement. No issues, just have to select yes when the placement warning shows.
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