League General Discussion Thread

@dawgoneit Scramble SZ 35?

@TinCanoftheSea

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Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British 1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to British Somaliland Italians take British Somaliland from British 1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya Italians take Kenya from British 1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Tobruk 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 96 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine British defend with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 cruiser in 96 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18 Casualties for British: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine Battle in Tobruk Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Tobruk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour and 1 artillery in Tobruk, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Tobruk Italians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry in Tobruk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 armour in Tobruk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the British lost in Tobruk Italians win, taking Tobruk from British with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Tobruk to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,4,5,4,3,6 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4 Italians collect 8 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.33 British regular : -1.83

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 4

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Politics - Americans Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States Combat Move - Americans Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Americans Non Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 106 Sea Zone to New Brunswick Nova Scotia 1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 2 destroyers and 2 fighters moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States Place Units - Americans 3 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 1 artillery; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi Chinese take Shensi from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 artillery placed in Sikang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 11 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 1 factory_minor; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - British 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan 1 bomber moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 fighter moved from Burma to French Indo China 2 mech_infantrys moved from Yunnan to Malaya 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Malaya 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo 1 artillery moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Syria British take Syria from Italians 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan Combat - British Battle in Trans-Jordan British attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Italians defend with 1 artillery British roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.33 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Trans-Jordan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Trans-Jordan 1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Trans-Jordan British win, taking Trans-Jordan from Italians with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery Battle in French Indo China British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in French Indo China, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in French Indo China British win, taking French Indo China from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Malaya British attack with 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 harbour and 1 infantry British roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Malaya, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Malaya, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Malaya, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the British lost in Malaya 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Malaya British win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1 Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Burma 3 aaGuns and 2 artilleries moved from Yunnan to Burma 1 armour and 5 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia 1 bomber moved from Egypt to Persia 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt Place Units - British 1 airfield placed in Egypt 1 factory_minor placed in Iraq 1 artillery placed in Persia Turn Complete - British Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6 British collect 33 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 33 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,6,5,1 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 36 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6 UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.00 Italians regular : 0.67 British regular : 0.17

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 8 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 2 destroyers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Southern Caucasus 2 armour moved from Rostov to Southern Caucasus Italians take Northern Caucasus from Russians 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern Caucasus Combat - Italians Battle in Southern Caucasus Italians attack with 3 armour and 1 bomber Russians defend with 1 armour Italians roll dice for 3 armour and 1 bomber in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Southern Caucasus, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Southern Caucasus 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Southern Caucasus Italians win, taking Southern Caucasus from Russians with 2 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Casualties for Russians: 1 armour Non Combat Move - Italians 3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Rostov to Northern Caucasus 1 bomber moved from Southern Caucasus to Ukraine 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 4 carriers, 8 fighters and 2 submarines moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone Place Units - Italians 1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Southern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 21 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -1.00 Russians regular : 0.50

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Wake Island to 31 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 6 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to France Combat - Americans Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 cruiser owned by the Americans scoring 2 hits. Rolls: 2,2 1 cruiser owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 cruiser owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 3,5 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 0 hits. Rolls: 5 Kamikaze Suicide Attack attacks 1 destroyer owned by the Americans scoring 1 hits. Rolls: 2 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone Strategic bombing raid in France Germans roll AA dice in France : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in France rolls: 3 and causes: 3 damage to unit: factory_minor Bombing raid in France causes 3 damage total. Battle in Guam Battle in 6 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports Japanese defend with 1 submarine Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone Americans win, taking Guam from Japanese, taking 6 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Battle in Korea Non Combat Move - Americans 1 carrier moved from 10 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from France to United Kingdom Place Units - Americans 1 carrier placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery placed in Western United States 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan 4 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei Combat - Chinese Battle in Yunnan Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan Chinese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Hopei Chinese attack with 4 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 4 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei Chinese win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kweichow 5 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow Place Units - Chinese 5 infantry placed in Szechwan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone British take 106 Sea Zone from Germans 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Egypt to 91 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Egypt to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in 91 Sea Zone British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters Germans defend with 1 submarine British roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 91 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 91 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for British: 1 destroyer Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter could not land in 99 Sea Zone and was removed 1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to British Guiana 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 artillery moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 1 fighter moved from Iceland to United Kingdom Place Units - British 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 109 Sea Zone 1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 9 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 81 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 71 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.67 Americans regular : 0.33 Japanese regular : 1.67 Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : 0.83 British regular : 0.00

Savegame

@aequitas-et-veritas

I’m not at a computer, can you post the scenario?

@666

no scramble

I’m not sure what you mean, so I’ll try to clarify.

My move was made with a big Russian stack in Burma instead of Yunnan. You told me I didn’t have the latest map. I said I’d have to re-do the turn then.

I might have confused the issue when I joined you in talking about the move, by saying that at first I thought about attacking Yunnan anyway, but this time with the rest of the units on FIC. But like I said I didn’t like that attack, and why. That was just hypothetical talk.

Since I had to re-do my turn, all the dice rolled the first time didn’t matter. I lose my win in Brazil, you lose your hits in Russia and China, etc. I lose my win in Yunnan. All of that was in a “fantasy world” because I had the wrong map.

I don’t know how we would handle it any other way, so I’m curious what you are thinking. You made a massive change to the board after I downloaded the map. For some reason I never saw your edit. Everyone allows it almost all the time, but technically when we post the move, it’s final unless you ask if it’s OK to edit. It’s common practice to do what you did, and I’ve done it many times, so it’s generally accepted as OK and I accepted yours as OK.

I have to re-do my turn because I missed your subsequent edit, and that was quite disappointing. If you’re saying some of the dice should stand, or that you’re not sure what should be done, just let me know what you have in mind. I’d love to keep my win in Brazil. But when I faced a drastically different situation in Yunnan I had to re-do my turn, and to me it was obvious that my first play on the unedited map was void.

Again, I’m not sore, just tell me what you aren’t sure about because it sounds like you’re unsure. But I think my telling you that I’m looking at it all as a clean slate and the move I made before is just totally void like it never happened, that maybe that clears it up for you?