2016 Championship Game: Me1945 (Allies +45) vs Rubioton (Axis)

I didn’t check the game now but if I recall correctly, the neutral crush was necessary open an escape route through Turkey for the units that have been accumulated at Greece?

But I might be totally wrong here.

@JDOW:

I didn’t check the game now but if I recall correctly, the neutral crush was necessary open an escape route through Turkey for the units that have been accumulated at Greece?

But I might be totally wrong here.

To pong the units from NW Persia back to Greece and buy another round. Hmm, a high price.

My read was the declaration on the neutrals was necessary to fly 4 extra fighters from India to Russia on Round 8, which reduced Germany’s G9 odds from pretty good to 50/50.  So it “worked” in the sense that Moscow never fell.

This (holding onto Moscow a few more turns) is probably the best possible justification for declaring on neutrals in a game where its usually suboptimal to do so.  It’s hard to say for sure if it was the right move–there’s a lot of factors to that need to be taken into account.  It would have been tough for Allies to win if Russia had fallen G9 but it’s also tough to win after declaring on neutrals, especially if USA doesn’t have the resources to open a new front in the Iberian Peninsula.

Congrats to Rubioton on the win and the title!

yep, that’s it Zhukov, thanks for clarifying!

So it was a difficult situation either way.

Yeah, when Rubi elaborated to put the pressure at the same time on Calc, Moscow and Greece, that was a key check to the king. When players are at so similar level, forcing a slight suboptimal decision can make the difference long term. Precisely because of that, I still believe that the apparently little step by that russian inf taking Korea first, helped a lot Japan long term, with a US factory there… Japan might not have resisted so long.

The only reason for opening neutrals was to bring air from India and thus save Moscow. Supporting Greec is just a side affect.
I am still confused why Axis didn’t pick up to guys in Switzerland? Same happened with my games with you. Any dislikes between Spain and Swiss? :-)

I mean with you Juan.

@JuanSpain:

Yeah, when Rubi elaborated to put the pressure at the same time on Calc, Moscow and Greece, that was a key check to the king. When players are at so similar level, forcing a slight suboptimal decision can make the difference long term. Precisely because of that, I still believe that the apparently little step by that russian inf taking Korea first, helped a lot Japan long term, with a US factory there… Japan might not have resisted so long.

Good call. I was actually planning to copy that move of landing on Amur as USA to then step on Korea but I’ve never had an occasion. Perhaps with the large number of transports in range and 10inf on Manchuria Me1945 figured that Japan could just crush a Korean outpost of 20 units easily the next turn?

@Me1945:

The only reason for opening neutrals was to bring air from India and thus save Moscow. Supporting Greec is just a side affect.
I am still confused why Axis didn’t pick up to guys in Switzerland? Same happened with my games with you. Any dislikes between Spain and Swiss? :-)

Ok, thanks.

@Zhukov44:

My read was the declaration on the neutrals was necessary to fly 4 extra fighters from India to Russia on Round 8, which reduced Germany’s G9 odds from pretty good to 50/50.  So it “worked” in the sense that Moscow never fell.

This (holding onto Moscow a few more turns) is probably the best possible justification for declaring on neutrals in a game where its usually suboptimal to do so.  It’s hard to say for sure if it was the right move–there’s a lot of factors to that need to be taken into account.  It would have been tough for Allies to win if Russia had fallen G9 but it’s also tough to win after declaring on neutrals, especially if USA doesn’t have the resources to open a new front in the Iberian Peninsula.

Congrats to Rubioton on the win and the title!

Without looking at it in depth, that bolded bit is surprising given that Japan was on the back foot. I suppose it’s hard to do stuff under the dark sky of 13 bombers.

I also must congratulate both players for reaching final and Rubi on the win.

@Me1945:

The only reason for opening neutrals was to bring air from India and thus save Moscow. Supporting Greec is just a side affect.
I am still confused why Axis didn�t pick up to guys in Switzerland? Same happened with my games with you. Any dislikes between Spain and Swiss? :-)

jaja! did not even think about that!

@JuanSpain:

@Me1945:

The only reason for opening neutrals was to bring air from India and thus save Moscow. Supporting Greec is just a side affect.
I am still confused why Axis didn�t pick up to guys in Switzerland? Same happened with my games with you. Any dislikes between Spain and Swiss? :-)

jaja! did not even think about that!

most of my opponents forget Switzerland lol it’s pretty common

Neutral Swizerland stays neutral, forever!!! :mrgreen: