BSD (Axis+3) vs AEV (Allies)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            3 fighters moved from Ukraine to Iraq
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Syria
                  Italians take Syria from British
            1 armour and 1 artillery moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Crete
            Battle in Cyprus
            Battle in Iraq
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 fighters
                British defend with 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                    AA fire in Iraq :  0/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 fighters in Iraq, round 2 :  5/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the British, 1 armour owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the Italians, 1 artillery owned by the British and 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq
                    Italians roll dice for 3 fighters in Iraq, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour in Iraq, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the British lost in Iraq
                Italians win, taking Crete from Neutral_Allies, taking Cyprus from British with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Battle in Malta
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Malta, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 aaGun and 1 infantry in Malta, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 aaGun owned by the British and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Malta
                Italians win, taking Malta from British with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing ownership of Iraq from British to Italians
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            3 fighters moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan

Place Units - Italians
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Egypt
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,2,5,4,5,5,1,3,1
            Italians collect 22 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 23 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 31 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 35 PUs

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@aequitas:

Why did you Change the ownership of Iraq?

I undid a move where my infantry were attacking from TJ to Iraq so I could walk an infantry to Syria and I forgot to put the units back into the attack on Iraq.  I figured instead of asking for a reroll it would just be easier to loose the equipment and walk the inf in.  We can reroll if you’d like to.

@aequitas:

@BSD:

@aequitas:

Why did you Change the ownership of Iraq?

I undid a move where my infantry were attacking from TJ to Iraq so I could walk an infantry to Syria and I forgot to put the units back into the attack on Iraq.�� I figured instead of asking for a reroll it would just be easier to loose the equipment and walk the inf in.�� We can reroll if you’d like to.��

So basically you attacked with:

1x Inf
1x Arm
1x Art
3x Ftrs
In this case you should have erased/edit 1x Inf out, because it walked into Iraq.
There should be now 2x Inf in Iraq and 1x Inf in Syria.
That is what irritated me in the first place.

No, you don’t need to reroll this battle. Just let whoever you play against know, before you roll for combat that you intended to bring in additional its.

I am fine with now. Thank you for clearing that out.
I’ll leave the edit to you and doing my turn now with this map.

AetV

No, the attack should have been 3 infantry, 1 arm, 2 art, 3 fighters.  3 inf and an art were moved back so that I could move an infantry into Syria.  And honestly I would prefer that you just moved them out of Iraq and turned it back to UK instead of getting false indignation about it, losing Italian equipment is a benefit to you not me.  I should have been losing infantry.  Now that I know that you’re an officious hard liner I won’t do any edits.

@aequitas:

@BSD:

Now that I know that you’re an officious hard liner I won’t do any edits. �

What do you mean with this? I am not familiar with this Phrase.

It means that I think you’re getting worked up about something that is not really a big deal and I would rather just not take the edit if it is going to be a perceived as an issue.  Please let me know now if you’d like to edit Iraq back and redo Anzac’s turn or if I should proceed with Germany.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 11

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 armour, 10 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
                  Germans take Archangel from Russians
            1 submarine moved from 122 Sea Zone to 120 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Samara
            2 bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Vologda
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 126 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 126 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 126 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Vologda
                Germans attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
                Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 2 bombers and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Samara
                Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Samara, round 2 :  3/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Samara, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Samara
                Germans win, taking Samara from Russians with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            2 bombers moved from Vologda to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from 126 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            5 armour, 1 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Samara to Volgograd
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            1 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            3 infantry moved from Western Germany to France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            3 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Bryansk
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Poland

Place Units - Germans
            2 armour placed in Western Germany
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry placed in Volgograd
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Novgorod
            7 infantry placed in Germany
            1 armour placed in Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
            Germans undo move 3.
            1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            2 infantry placed in Volgograd
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Western Germany: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Germans undo move 9.
            1 infantry placed in Germany
            1 infantry placed in Volgograd
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bryansk: 3 fighters
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Iraq: 3 fighters
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 55 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs

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GG WP and thanks for the game.  Sure, we can rematch.  Let’s bid.  I bid 3 for Axis.

I’m confused, doesn’t a 3 bid out bid a 5 bid?  I think if you want Axis you have to go lower than my bid correct?

@aequitas:

@BSD:

I’m confused, doesn’t a 3 bid out bid a 5 bid?  I think if you want Axis you have to go lower than my bid correct?

Normally you are right.
We figured for Vanilla a common starting bid over the years in a certain range.
Right now we experimenting a certain range for BM3.
You did well with 3 and have two games right now with 6.
So i was thinking we should go up.
We won’t exceed 10 anyway and figuring out where it hurts us right now.

Alright, 5 is fine.  Set er up.