18L Adam514 (Axis+3) vs simon33 (Allies) BM

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Northwest Persia
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 111 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Northwest Persia
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Tambov
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Vologda
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Northwest Persia
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
                  Germans take Urals from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda

Combat - Germans

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Scramble 110?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry, 7 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Northwest Persia
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 111 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Northwest Persia
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Tambov
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Vologda
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Northwest Persia
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Nenetsia to Urals
                  Germans take Urals from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Vologda

Combat - Germans
            Americans scrambles 3 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 transport in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 destroyer in 111 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the British lost in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Scotland
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 3 fighters; Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/4 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans, 1 submarine owned by the Germans, 1 fighter owned by the Germans and 3 fighters owned by the British lost in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans win, taking Scotland from British with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 3 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Vologda
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Vologda, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda
                Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Volgograd
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys in Volgograd, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd
                Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Tambov
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Tambov, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov
                Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Northwest Persia
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans roll dice for 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Northwest Persia, round 2 :  5/9 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Northwest Persia, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the British, 1 artillery owned by the British, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 1 infantry owned by the British and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia
                Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 2 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 30
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Germans
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            EDIT: 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from Tambov to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Vologda to Bryansk
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            1 armour and 2 artilleries moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
            1 aaGun moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            2 artilleries moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            4 armour moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Volgograd
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 carriers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            8 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland

Place Units - Germans
            1 factory_minor placed in Caucasus
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Novgorod
            7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 submarines placed in 112 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 81 PUs

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@simon33:

Full scramble of 3 UK Ftrs.

Forgot to edit the troops to get off the TT in the Red Sea. I’ll do that in the USSR turn if I remember.

Unloaded them into T-J.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3, version: 3.3

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 6 fighters and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
                  Japanese take Novosibirsk from Russians
            2 bombers moved from Shan State to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers and 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Szechwan, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Szechwan
                Japanese win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            3 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
            5 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hunan
            3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 aaGun moved from Hopei to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 aaGun moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            2 bombers moved from Szechwan to French Indo China
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 marine moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 marine and 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 1 marine, 7 submarines and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            3 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Caroline Islands
            1 carrier, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Caroline Islands
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 42 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Caroline Islands

Place Units - Japanese
            3 infantry placed in French Indo China
            3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone
            6 fighters placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 71 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 74 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 79 PUs
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 84 PUs

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@simon33:

You have achieved economic victory. It’s only a matter of time before the Axis crush the allies, and that’s if you don’t take Sydney soon, which I think you will.

I think I gave up Hawaii too easily, although checking the history I would have had to have done something radically different there. Also, 2CVs in the Atlantic US1 was too much. I’ve never done that before that I can recall. Stripping two planes from the Pacific allowed that fleet to be sunk J3. I guess it was still behind but at least I would have done somewhat more damage.

I don’t know, my Allied strategy has some success against other players. Perhaps I changed it too much to compensate for the German CV turn 1. Perhaps I should have done something completely different with that buy. As it happened I chickened out before reaching Norway anyway.

Good win. We both knew the result from the start but I wanted to see how I would go. I actually thought it would be over with more quickly about turn 3 but at least I defended Moscow and the Mid East for a while, with Calcutta too. So in that sense I feel I did at least give you some competition.

Good game! I wouldn’t have gone for Sidney though, with 40+ income advantage I had time on my side. No need to risk anything.

Your major mistakes, chronologically, were:

1. Doing Taranto and retreating to Iceland with your fleet. You had the perfect situation to ignore Taranto and do a 91 stack with the remaining fleet from 110, since Germany built navy G1. That would have killed Italy’s navy by UK3. Instead, you went to Iceland with 111 and got crushed.

2. Going to sz 7 with the US navy (near Japan). This is a waste of a move since I can’t see it achieving anything against a competent player. It puts you out of position if Japan puts a slight effort into keeping ships in 6, and if Japan does what I did here (build to deadzone Midway), you either take the 99% Midway battle or you put yourself even more out of position by fleeing North.

3. Putting your 20 Russian units in Amur when it was clear that I wasn’t going to JDOW since the German fleet would have been destroyed by the US fleet. You just gave Japan something to do while waiting for J3DOW.

You weren’t going to get Norway unless you threw Japan the Pacific victory. 2 US CVs with 7 air was also overkill, and didn’t achieve anything worth that investment.

Calcutta wasn’t going to fall quickly with the combined effects of J3DOW, Amur stack crush and US fleet crush with Hawaii grab. That’s why I was making inf instead of mechs on the mainland, Calcutta would have held for another 6 rounds. Moscow was also never my target since Russia wasn’t making much income thanks to the SFE being in Japan’s hands. The German plan was simply to get the money and wait it out.

You put a slight amount of pressure on sz 6, but you lose all the pressure on the DEI which are way more important.

Yes use the damaged BB as bait for German units. Build and Airbase in Gib yes, though you didn’t need one if 110 survives.