Transport in hostile SZ

It only comes up when they deploy on top of you so its an unusual situation.  But if it comes up, the transports are limited–roger.

So guys,  Interesting responses regarding the transport - by the letter of the law you are correct.

But let me ask you another question:

Does everyone ANNOUNCE their amphibious assaults?  I can’t think of a single time in 1000 games I have ever heard someone officially do this.

Check this out

Europe Rulebook Page 14:
“During the Conduct Combat phase, you can launch only
amphibious assaults that you announced during this
phase.”

I mean, is moving the units into the territory you plan to attach a non-verbal “announcement”?  Or is there a dirty trick to be played out at the next tournament here?

For example: Put your phone on voice record - watch a guy plan his perfect J3 India crush; let him move all his attacks; wait for the combat phase, he starts rolling dice and doesn’t “Announce”.  He gets to india and it’s oh, excuse me sir, by the letter of the rulebook on Page 14 you didn’t announce the amphibious assault.  Those amphibious units won’t be arriving in India - guess your air force is burnt.

Per the letter of the rulebook that’s 100% legit.

You’re thinking of some kind of formal announcement where someone rings a bell first, clears their throat, and then declares for all to hear in an English accent that they intend to do an amphibious assault in Gibraltar.

I always tell my opponent after all of my moves are made what my intentions are with all of my attacks and so do most other people that I have ever played. The reason you’re supposed to announce that one in particular is that you could sneakily say " no, I was just moving my boats there with those 12 dudes on them, I had no intention of landing them" after your other attacks had failed and it was no longer a good idea to land them. Yes, you should tell your opponent you’re landing troops so they have a chance to scramble or not.

The rule is reinforced again here:

Page #17
Amphibious Assaults
During this step you will resolve each amphibious assault
you announced during the Combat Move phase. If you
didn’t announce an amphibious assault, go to “General
Combat” on page 18.

Interesting thing… Page 18-20 is just a continuation of regular combat.  No announcement no Amphibious assault!

@GeneralHandGrenade:

You’re thinking of some kind of formal announcement where someone rings a bell first, clears their throat, and then declares for all to hear in an English accent that they intend to do an amphibious assault in Gibraltar.

If it’s in a strong Scottish dialect I might not understand it.

@GeneralHandGrenade:

You’re thinking of some kind of formal announcement where someone rings a bell first, clears their throat, and then declares for all to hear in an English accent that they intend to do an amphibious assault in Gibraltar.

I always tell my opponent after all of my moves are made what my intentions are with all of my attacks and so do most other people that I have ever played. The reason you’re supposed to announce that one in particular is that you could sneakily say " no, I was just moving my boats there with those 12 dudes on them, I had no intention of landing them" after your other attacks had failed and it was no longer a good idea to land them. Yes, you should tell your opponent you’re landing troops so they have a chance to scramble or not.

Well, you do have to unload the units in combat movement in spite of the combat in the SZ. Whether you do this by a verbal announcement or just moving the pieces onto the land makes no real difference.

@taamvan:

RULES:
Remain in the sea zone and conduct combat, (if you win, this is the only way to get to NCM also, the TT didn’t fight or participate in combat)

Bit in red is incorrect.

In addition to points raised above, to remove any doubt this is also explicitly duplicated in the rules.
@p13:

Sea Units Starting in Hostile Sea Zones
At the beginning of the Combat Move phase, you might already have sea units (and air units on carriers) in spaces containing
enemy units that were there at the start of your turn. For example, an enemy might have built new surface warships in a sea
zone where you have sea units. When your turn comes around again, you are sharing that sea zone with enemy forces.
If you are sharing a sea zone with surface warships (not submarines and/or transports) belonging to a power with which you
are at war, this situation requires you to do one of the following:
• Remain in the sea zone and conduct combat,
• Leave the sea zone, load units if desired, and conduct combat elsewhere,
• Leave the sea zone, load units, and return to the same sea zone to conduct combat (you can’t load units while in a hostile
sea zone), or
• Leave the sea zone and conduct no combat.
Once these sea units have moved and/or participated in combat, they can’t move or participate in the Noncombat Move phase of the turn.

When i play, i narrate all my moves. These guys are going here. And he’s coming in from here. They’re getting on the boat here and cruising over to here to pick up that empty spot (undefended coastal territory) im coming thru here and hitting here( blitz). Its they way i was taught when i first learned the game 25 yrs ago. Maybe he explained everything so i could learn. Maybe i kept explaining to teach. But now i explain everything. That should count as announcing.

Narrating the game keeps everyone on the same page even if they aren’t looking at the board–its like a running news feed, the game’s audio.

Thanks for clarifying that the Transport has no way of NCM during this situation, which is, like most of the confusing nuances, the product of a rare set of factors coming together at once.

@Bob77:

When i play, i narrate all my moves. These guys are going here. And he’s coming in from here. They’re getting on the boat here and cruising over to here to pick up that empty spot (undefended coastal territory) im coming thru here and hitting here( blitz). Its they way i was taught when i first learned the game 25 yrs ago. Maybe he explained everything so i could learn. Maybe i kept explaining to teach. But now i explain everything. That should count as announcing.

Yes  pretty much the norm for us in are games. The defender should be watching anyway at all times. The attacker in are games will land the ground on what there attacking. No need for AA announce.  As far as a tournament then it should be brought up at beginning of games if thats the route you go.

@ Fiera
Yes. On you turn, your vessels can choose to ignore subs &/or transports. Doesnt matter if you have a destroyer or not. Your subs cannot ignore enemy destroyers.

Why wouldn’t Germany be able to pick up in SZ114? That’s not a hostile SZ.