I have been playing around with different configurations for a custom table and wanted to note some things I’ve landed on that I really like. A main one thing is having the map mounted so that it can slide around as needed on top of a bigger playing area. My table is 65” x 95” in total with a 5.5” arm rest around the outside and the middle is a recessed neoprene surface. I have the OOB Global map mounted on 1/2” rigid foam with a 1/2” aluminum frame around it. This allows the map to slide up close to whoever’s turn it is, but then be in the middle so both players can roll dice In front of them without disturbing the map and in easy view of the other player. (Plus we like lots of room to roll the bones). This ability to adjust the surface along with a standing height, makes it comfortable for long uses because you can move around more and don’t feel as tied down.
Things I’ve learned and changed from original design - I originally used too big of a frame for the map and mounted it on too high of a foam block (you can see these pictures at the bottom) - it made it hard to see the other player’s dice and the big frame took up too much real estate. My global map is mounted on much thinner foam (the framing is bad, you can see if you look closely) but I also used much thinner aluminum angle for the frame. This gives just enough grip when needing to move the map around (I use furniture slides on the bottom, which glide very nicely on the neoprene) but doesn’t make the whole thing too bulky. Having it an inch or so off the surface keeps the dice off, but isn’t so heigh that you can’t see the other player’s dice rolls. When playing other versions (such as Zombies) the board is much smaller, but it can easily swap in and out on the same table since it can move around where ever it is needed or be pushed aside.
I originally made it normal table height, but found long reaches while sitting were harder and it just felt cramped. Standing height with a bar stool is a great way to have the best of both worlds.
The 5.5” rim around the table itself gives you a nice arm rest that doesn’t interfere with the gaming surface. I’m playing with how to best add some cushion to this part - open to suggestions. Sometimes I just lay a piece of leftover neoprene on it.
Dice bounce nice on the neoprene and stay off the floor. It also feels nice and has enough give to allow things to slide but be picked up easily. Wouldn’t definitely go with neoprene again as a surface covering.
I made the drawers open to the inside of the table so you can stay hunched over the action while accessing and stowing stuff away. 50/50 on whether I would keep this if I were to do it again. If I were doing it again, I might try to build customer drawers form scratch using actual drawer glides, but that was beyond my ability when I first did this, so I just used clear plexiglass boxes with aluminum pulls mounted on them. It’s nice having them clear, and I was happy with how the pulls came out, but without glides they can be a little fussy sliding in and out of their slots.
I originally designed the table so that I could put a cover surface back on top when not in use, but find I don’t really ever do that, so if I were to do it again, I might not mess with that part (I never even finished staining those as you can see in the pictures).
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Historical Board Gaming Piece Colors
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Hello everyone.
I’m looking into purchasing custom pieces from historicalboardgaming.com and I’m not sure which colors are the closest matches to the OOTB Axis & Allies pieces. I’m looking to add to my Europe and Pacific 1940 Second Editions, but I can’t seem to find a color guide anywhere on HBG’s site, and I’ve not yet received any response to my email to them about this. Does anyone here have a link to a color guide, or perhaps simply know which colors correspond to the 9 powers in 1940 Second Edition?
Thank you!
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I have bought a LOT from HBG. Here are the colors I use. Some of the colors will not be exactly the same, but close enough for government work.
Germany - Black
Italy - Brown
Japan - Pumpkin OrangeUSA - Olive Drab
France - Blue or G40 Blue (not light blue)
UK - UK Tan
ANZAC - Grey/ G40 Grey/ANZAC Grey
China - Yellow-GreenRussia - Russian Brown
That is what I use and Have been happy so far! Hope that helps.
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If you go the HBG’s website, all these colors Andy6049 is talking about, are under the battle pieces link, that you click on first, then click on battle piece colors, then you can click on each unit piece, you desire to purchase.
I hope this helps.
Cheers!
John
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Oh, I almost completely forgot. The 3D printed pieces are a little different. Some of them will blend in decent enough but others will be noticeable (small price to pay for such cool, unique units). A couple that I know first hand look a bit different is the Italian jet fighter (is a DARK brown), the Russian seaplane, and the Russian T-35 (both of which look closer to the OOB Italy color than the Russian color). Not all of the 3D printed stuff is like that though, some of them match pretty good (Me-163, B-29, V2s…). You should be able to tell on most of them from the pictures.
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Hello everyone.
I’m looking into purchasing custom pieces from historicalboardgaming.com and I’m not sure which colors are the closest matches to the OOTB Axis & Allies pieces. I’m looking to add to my Europe and Pacific 1940 Second Editions, but I can’t seem to find a color guide anywhere on HBG’s site, and I’ve not yet received any response to my email to them about this. Does anyone here have a link to a color guide, or perhaps simply know which colors correspond to the 9 powers in 1940 Second Edition?
Thank you!
Andy’s list is correct as far as closest match, but if slight variations bother you, heads up, some of them are not perfect matches for OOB units… American Olive Drab seems to be hit and miss, with some matching the shade perfectly, and others off a bit… Most of the Japanese orange units are a shade off as well… they are close, but not a perfect match.
Not sure if that concerns you or not, but just a head’s up.
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Thank you, everyone. I placed my order and for the pieces that arrived everything ended up being a very close match!
On the other hand, almost half of my big order was missing, with no note in the box or an email saying that it was a stock problem (everything showed as in stock on the website). Any idea how long HBG usually takes to get back to you on order problem inquiries? Thanks.
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Try calling Mr. Friend. The number should be on the website. Just explain what happened. They are usually good about fixing problems like this.
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Try calling Mr. Friend. The number should be on the website. Just explain what happened. They are usually good about fixing problems like this.
I concur, same thing… I have ordered a lot with them in the past, and have had some issues of wrong or missing items, but he has always corrected any problems… just submit a trouble ticket (you can do that on the site) or call him.
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Wolf, would you say the yellow green is an exact, close or close enough match for the chinese? I want to get them their own art.
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I would say that it is close enough. HBG doesn’t have anything closer…
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Wolf, would you say the yellow green is an exact, close or close enough match for the chinese? I want to get them their own art.
An alternate approach, just in case this option is something that would work for you, is to provide China with artillery that’s a unique shape, even if the colour doesn’t quite match, by giving it artillery pieces from A&A WWI 1914. The British Empire ones are, I think, the closest match for the green of the A&A Chinese pieces. The antiquated look of the WWI artillery piece is actually rather suitable for China in WWII, since the Chinese didn’t exactly have cutting-edge technology. And to supply China with a distinctive fighter, use a green American P-40 Warhawk from A&A 1941; it was the plane which the Flying Tigers actually used. Officially the Flying Tigers were a unit of the Chinese Air Force, but its pilots were American.
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I just might go with the 75-7veld in yellowgreen from HBG since i dont plan on gettig 1914or 41. If the colors arnt close enough for my taste, it still has to be better then the american color A nd it does look different and antiquated. Same with the flying tigers or I’ll look in my other AA games for them. Thanks
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The P-40 Warhawk is perfect for using as the Flying Tigers unit. I used the artillery pieces from a game called Attack! They looked antiquated enough. Love all the ideas that everyone writes for customizing their own games! Keep them coming!
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Hey Bob77, I purchased the same yellowgreen 75-7 Veld artillery for my Chinese forces and I was happy with them. Colour is not 100% on, but there is always the option of painting them to match. The models themselves looked great on the board, rugged mountain guns.
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Wolf, would you say the yellow green is an exact, close or close enough match for the chinese? I want to get them their own art.
You would ask a question of about the only nationality color I haven’t actually bought… I’ve bought at least one custom unit from every major power (the 5) and two minors (Italy and ANZAC) from HBG, the one exception being China… so I can’t offer my opinion of the color match from HBG on that one.
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Tanks anyway wolf.
Unfortunately HGB is out of yellow green velds. Im gonna email to see if they plan on making more. If not, lime green will have to work. -
On this note, is “blonde” or “tan” a better color match for OOB UK G40 pieces?
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@hengst said in Historical Board Gaming Piece Colors:
On this note, is “blonde” or “tan” a better color match for OOB UK G40 pieces?
I think tan is a better match. Blonde is too light a color to be a good match.
-Midnight_Reaper