Oil Refinery

@TitusJames haha yeah, funny how that happens :)

Oil has been a very common house rule discussed. I found Burans oil house rule and that is my favorite one I’ve seen thus far, but there is one thing I don’t entirely like. There seem to be 2 main uses for oil in most of the forums.

A- you turn oil in for money. This one doesn’t totally make sense to me because oil doesn’t necessarily mean lots of money. As I look at it, Russia had a ton of oil in the war, but that didn’t mean they could build a massive air force right away, it just meant they had a lot of oil.

B- you use up X amount of oil to move as many of one branch as you want. Like X oil allows you to move your army, or your navy, or your airforce. This one doesn’t makes less sense to me because ANZAC obviously would need less oil to move it’s 3 boats than Japan would to move the entire IJN, yet with this rule, they both require the same amount of oil.

I assume I’m not alone in thinking this. There are some more specific ones I saw a while back but they were still pretty close to what I said in B. The idea of having a supply line intrigued me, as I got started in this by wanting to reflect the U-boat disruptions against convoys better, but I don’t like that the US fleet could be anywhere in the pacific and still get fuel easily just because of a supply line. Maybe that could work good, it just doesn’t seem totally realistic, however on land it would make more sense to me.

Does anybody have a good rule for how to use oil to fuel units? I’d like to stay close to the numbers involved Burans house rule and be close to historically accurate. Of course, I can’t totally accurate in regards to oil production as Baku in the Caucasus was producing like 10-15 times as much oil as Romania.

Thanks for the input. This is Burans rule is referring to-https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/23944/oil-rule-s

This topic is very interesting. Mainly because the German “Wehrmacht” hat great difficulties with fuel shortages.
I would say, as long as you are not in control of at least one oil field your tanks can not “blitz” and aircraft can only fly defensive missions (or there should be a restriction how many spaces they can fly - for instance -1 for bombers and fighters)
There should be a rule which allows you to make a strategic bombardement of the oil fields.

That is a very interesting idea. I would like to hear more of it :)

Making oil barrels?

Why not just paint some capacitors?
That way, you can get them in any color and size you want, and they are really cheap :)

The oil concept seems cool will test it next time i have the chance….

Somebody have test 2 diferent IPC value, like oil? For example;
Infantry 5ipc
Tank 10ipc+5oil

@dijitz

Well, I may be mistaken, but it seems mathematically that when there’s already a nearly triple-percentage advantage in Allied economic power, extending that further only serves to deepen the advantage.

To illustrate, lets say in a battle you have 3 tanks and I have 1, a 3:1 ratio. I like your chances even better at 6:2 and 9:3, etc.

I like IL’s rules and I am going to use them with slight modifications.
Germany and Italy will use the oil fields of Romania. I also think that if they can trace a supply path to Venzuela, they would have oil.
Japan needs oil somewhere, give them oil from Russia and the us until certain times of the war , then when they are at war, they must have oil secured or serve penalties.
Penalities would be either moving only half their pieces they require fuel or make them all move a limited range.

I have railroads and oil fleld territory on my A&A game.
(I’m a railfan since 20 years so it was normal to incorporate railraod on my game.
I found a lot of info on the net about railroad line in 1939.
So i incorporated european,asian and american railroad line on my map.

Here’s my house rules.
Each player can move infantry and artillery by railroads.
1 units per territory.
During the non combat movement, infantry and/or artillery can make a 2 two zones move.  The player must use is own railway he can’t pass throught an ennemy occupied zone.
There’s one exception. USSR.
The Russian player can move 3 infantries ( Or 3 artillery) because this player has the trans-siberian railway national advantage.

For oilfiled. It’s simple.
I have 20 oil territory.
USSR 2, USA 2, France 2, UK 3, Chana 1,Italy 1, neutral country 9. 
If you take possession of an ennemy oil territory. The lost player must pay to the new owner, twice of the value of the territory. example. If the german player occupied Egypt (2 IPC). The UK must pay 4 IPC to the german player.

If a player lost all is oil territory he’s going to get a penalty.
At the beginning of his turn he must roll a dice. 
1 or 2: Ground unit cannot attack.
3 or 4 : Air unit cannont attack.
5 or 6 : Naval unit cannot attack.
(No effect for transport and submarine).

Oil is realy important. Infatc, you cannot make the war without that.
For Hitler itwas too late.

Alan.