G40 2nd ed. oysteilo (axis) vs. ShadowHAwk (allies, no bid)

Clearly Shadowhawk knows what he is doing and he might be just better than me. If that is the case, fair enough!

As for japan, I think this is going OK. When the allies decide to throw everything they have at Japan, Japan will be busy, no question. Maybe it is incorrect to move the Manchuria men, but I fail to see how that matters a whole lot. In any case Russia can just walk into Korea and the situation is pretty much the same. The poor part is that Manchuria is chinese. With everything that is going on in the DEI/Yunnan/India, China can “easily” break through to the coast and threaten Shangtun and Kiansu, especially if Japan loose focus on Yunnan and China ends up with artillary. I think moving the Manchuria men avoids this problem.  Manchuria and Korea “I can take back any time” if i decide to, but I think there is more important business to deal with elsewhere. So right now, there is nothing new under the sun and this opening has been done many times in the past by allied players. What I have achieved is stopping the flow of infantiry from India, I have control of Malaya and India will be weak if I one day will be in position to attack it. By end of J6 we will know more how this is playing out.

As for Germany, G4 is not ideal, but maybe it doesn’t really matter a whole lot, it is not like the 18 men wil make it home any time soon  :-D :-D :-D. However, ShadowHAwk plays well and is able to make me think twice about a Italy2 DOW. Nice position of men, making it too risky, as it would be really hard to avoid a lethal strike on eastern poland and at the same time avoid Russia to take Finland. This is probably somewhat sloppy by me that I don’t have my air force in position and it is also probably not really required to use fast moving units to attack the French in round 2. In any case these are “smal” inaccuracies that it seems like ShadowHAwk is picking up on. I will have to study this later on

So far a lot of credits to ShadowHAwk!

@Arthur:

Oysteilo, the US has spent 36 PUs in the Pacific during the first three rounds  (1 carrier, 2 subs, 1 DD if I read the history correctly) .  That is hardly throwing everything that they have into the theater.  I would be very cautious as Japan if the US had spent 3 full rounds of production in the Pacific, but not a mere 36.  I think that Japan can make up for lost ground but they should be doing so much better at this point of the game if the US is primarily building forces in the Atlantic.

I rarely see Russia decide to invade Korea just for the one turn boost of 3 PUs.  They have to to retreat to Amur the following round and pray that they can escape back towards Moscow before the stack is wiped out.  They are extremely exposed in Amur on the round following the Korea strike.  In this game the Allies got a 24 point swing already from the Russian invasion of Manchuria&Korea, plus the Russian stack can safely retreat to Amur next round since the odds have turned against him.

You generally play the Allies quite well and must need a few more games of practice to get your Axis skills back up to a normal level.   I don’t want to come off as insulting since I also get rusty after extended time not playing one side of the board, and the better League players generally crush me with ease.

no worries. I take your points

@ShadowHAwk:

Terribly sorry forgot to press the post button so i posted only the save.

Funny my sub from india actualy managed to destroy a transport so japan only has 2 left in the south area.

And i cleared a few italians while i was busy in europe, nothing major or special

I didn’t see that one obviously

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Research Technology - Italians

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Baltic States
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Baltic States
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 99 Sea Zone to Cyprus
            1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Algeria to 94 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Tunisia to 94 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 94 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Cyprus
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Italians attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Cyprus from British, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Italians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Baltic States to Germany
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs

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yeah, looks like I am toast

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bessarabia
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Norway to 125 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 125 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Finland to 127 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 127 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            3 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Karelia
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Vyborg
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Vyborg
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Vyborg
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Vyborg from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to 127 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 bomber moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 bomber moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 carrier moved from 125 Sea Zone to 127 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Ukraine to Western Ukraine
            3 aaGuns, 7 armour, 14 artilleries, 18 infantry and 13 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Western Ukraine
            7 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania

Place Units - Germans
            5 armour and 5 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs

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@ShadowHAwk:

BTW for all the readers, according to everybody on this forum i should lose this match from the start and i have absolutely 0 chance of winning this game.

As im playing allies without a bid and with the standard 2nd edition rules.

OK ShadowHAwk. I guess that is it for me. Your last move with Russia puts me in a hopeless situation. If I take Bryansk with Germany you will strafe me and position in Russia, If I dont’ you will take Novgorod. Either way it is catch 22!

All right, I am completely outplayed by you and there is no point in continuing this «humiliation»! For me this was a solid wake up call and I am really puzzled how little I got accomplished, especially with Germany as they were left to do their own things all the time.

I bow to your excellent gameplay and you proved me wrong, or at least you prove you are a much better player than I am. I will have to look at this and pick up some good hints!

@Arthur:

The more I look at the board, the more I am convinced that the Axis should have an easy victory.Â

If you think I still have a chance I might keep it going for a few more rounds…… But I think this looks like a lost case

@oysteilo:

@Arthur:

The more I look at the board, the more I am convinced that the Axis should have an easy victory.�Â

If you think I still have a chance I might keep it going for a few more rounds…… But I think this looks like a lost case

After sleeping on it I can post Japan this afternoon. But in any case I need to figurte out something clever with germany……There are definately things to be learned here!

@ShadowHAwk:

@oysteilo:

@oysteilo:

@Arthur:

The more I look at the board, the more I am convinced that the Axis should have an easy victory.��Â

If you think I still have a chance I might keep it going for a few more rounds…… But I think this looks like a lost case

After sleeping on it I can post Japan this afternoon. But in any case I need to figurte out something clever with germany……There are definately things to be learned here!

I insist that harris keeps his mouth shut about the euro board. Not fair having 3 players VS 1 and i dont even have a bid :)

No offence Harris but you keep giving him good advice and that is against my best intrest :)

I agree, no 3 vs 1 player. As far as I know I think ABH has not hinted on anything on what I should do, he was not agreeing with  the manchuria thing but that is all. He has said he thinks it is not over. Which I think is fair. It also looks like other players agree with him and that encourages me to try a little longer

Great stuff. The Japanese has had some sushi and sake over the last couple of days so expect the unexpected

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Manchuria
                  Japanese take Manchuria from Chinese
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
            1 mech_infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 armour moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to Hopei
            2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 fighters moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Jehol to Suiyuyan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Jehol to Hopei

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Kweichow
                Japanese attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                retreated to Suiyuyan
                Chinese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Hopei
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win, taking 36 Sea Zone from UK_Pacific with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 submarine
            Battle in Korea
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Korea from Russians, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Jehol
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Jehol
            1 battleship, 2 carriers and 2 cruisers moved from 37 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to 35 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to 35 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Szechwan to Philippines
            1 bomber moved from Shan State to Philippines
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to French Indo China
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines

Place Units - Japanese
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Kwangtung
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Kiangsu
            3 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs

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