Hesitated to think I might still be in this game - you might get Australia it looks like. Still, let’s see.
Re: simon33 Allies +18 -vs- dawgoneit Axis
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Nup. That is to scramble. No airfield required for intercept.
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Americans
2 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to 6 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 33 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea ZoneCombat - Americans
Battle in 33 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
Japanese defend with 1 submarine
Americans win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
Battle in 6 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 2 fighters
Japanese defend with 1 destroyer, 3 submarines and 4 transports
3 submarines owned by the Japanese Submerged
Americans win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 36
Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer and 4 transports
Battle in 16 Sea Zone
Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
Americans win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyerNon Combat Move - Americans
2 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to Midway
2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Iwo Jima
1 carrier moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
1 transport moved from 99 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 armour moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Greece
1 carrier and 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Norway to 97 Sea Zone
2 bombers moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Southeast Mexico to Central America
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from British Guiana to 88 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
1 armour moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 92 Sea ZonePlace Units - Americans
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Norway
2 bombers and 2 fighters placed in Eastern United States
1 carrier and 2 destroyers placed in 10 Sea ZoneTurn Complete - Americans
Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 61 PUs total
Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 86 PUs -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;Combat Move - Chinese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
EDIT: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
EDIT: 1 transport moved from 123 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
EDIT: 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Central America to 89 Sea Zone
EDIT: 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
EDIT: 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
EDIT: 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 106 Sea Zone to Quebec
EDIT: 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
EDIT: 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
2 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to SikangCombat - Chinese
Battle in Sikang
Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
Chinese win, taking Sikang from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Shensi
Chinese attack with 2 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
1 infantry owned by the Chinese retreated to Tsinghai
Japanese win with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - Chinese
1 fighter moved from Sikang to TsinghaiPlace Units - Chinese
1 infantry placed in TsinghaiTurn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 3 PUs total -
Atlantic edit could be confusing.
SZ123 TT -> Quebec
Inf & art -> Quebec
SZ101 TTs pick up inf & art each. 1 from E USA, one SE Mexico.
USN -> SZ91. -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - British
British buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - British
1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
British take 97 Sea Zone from Italians
2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Albania
1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 95 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Egypt to 97 Sea ZoneCombat - British
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Scramble from Rome to SZ95 or SZ97?
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no
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - British
British buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - British
1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 99 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
British take 97 Sea Zone from Italians
2 cruisers moved from 99 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Albania
1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 95 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Egypt to 97 Sea ZoneCombat - British
Battle in Albania
British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Italians defend with 2 infantry
Italians win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
Battle in 95 Sea Zone
British attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
Italians defend with 1 destroyer
British win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyerNon Combat Move - British
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
2 destroyers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
1 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 battleship, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
2 fighters moved from 97 Sea Zone to GreecePlace Units - British
1 carrier placed in 109 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Egypt
1 artillery placed in United KingdomTurn Complete - British
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5,4,2,6,4,5,4,4,4,6
British collect 31 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 31 PUs total
Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUsTurn Complete - UK_Pacific
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I need to find out more about this intercepting with out a airfield. :?
this is really frustrating me. :-o
I would have not just taken my bomber in there.
I’m not going to take my turn until I find out.
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I need to find out more about this intercepting with out a airfield. :?
this is really frustrating me. :-o
I would have not just taken my bomber in there.
I’m not going to take my turn until I find out.
I’ve all ways played you need an airstrip.Ok but it was a pretty big hint that Triple-A asked for interceptors. Were your fighters doing anything that turn?
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Italians
1 mech_infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to GreeceCombat - Italians
Battle in Greece
Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
British defend with 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 armour and 1 fighter
Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Italians: 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for British: 2 fighters
Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 1 fighterNon Combat Move - Italians
1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Southern ItalyPlace Units - Italians
3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
1 infantry placed in Northern ItalyTurn Complete - Italians
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 5
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5,5,3,5,1
Italians collect 6 PUs (5 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs total -
I need to find out more about this intercepting with out a airfield. :?
this is really frustrating me. :-o
I would have not just taken my bomber in there.
I’m not going to take my turn until I find out.
I’ve all ways played you need an airstrip.Ok but it was a pretty big hint that Triple-A asked for interceptors. Were your fighters doing anything that turn?
you are right.
sorry about the miss understanding.
after all the games I’ve played. I must not of had the situation come up before.
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - ANZAC
2 infantry moved from Iraq to PersiaCombat - ANZAC
Battle in Persia
ANZAC attack with 2 infantry
Japanese defend with 1 artillery
1 infantry owned by the ANZAC retreated to Iraq
Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - ANZAC
1 bomber moved from Queensland to Iwo Jima
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to 33 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline IslandsPlace Units - ANZAC
1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South WalesTurn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 19 PUs -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 6
Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 7
Research Technology - Germans
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans repair damage of 1x factory_major; Remaining resources: 51 PUs;
Germans buy 17 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Germans
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Karelia
Germans take Karelia from Russians
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
Germans take Vyborg from Russians
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
Germans take Smolensk from Russians
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 95 Sea ZoneCombat - Germans
Battle in Archangel
Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 artillery
Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
Battle in 95 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 destroyer
Germans win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
Battle in Ukraine
Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - Germans
1 fighter moved from 95 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 tactical_bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Western Germany
6 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
2 aaGuns, 3 artilleries, 25 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Baltic States
2 aaGuns and 4 infantry moved from Germany to PolandPlace Units - Germans
5 infantry placed in Western Germany
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Romania: 10 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Eastern Poland: 10 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
10 infantry placed in Romania
Germans undo move 1.
3 infantry placed in Western Germany
4 infantry placed in GermanyTurn Complete - Germans
Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,5,3,3,5,4
Germans collect 46 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 46 PUs total
Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 51 PUs -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Combat Move - Russians
1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Shensi
2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
1 fighter moved from Russia to Belarus
11 artilleries and 35 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western UkraineCombat - Russians
Battle in Smolensk
Russians attack with 1 artillery and 9 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 artillery and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Belarus
Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Ukraine
Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
retreated to Ukraine
Germans win with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
Battle in Shensi
Russians attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
Russians win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Western Ukraine
Russians attack with 12 artilleries and 36 infantry
Germans defend with 1 aaGun
Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 12 artilleries and 36 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGunNon Combat Move - Russians
2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Rostov
2 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to RostovPlace Units - Russians
3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 6 infantry placed in RussiaTurn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 33 PUs -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;Combat Move - Japanese
1 bomber moved from Malaya to Shensi
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
1 artillery moved from Kansu to Shensi
2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Japan
1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Japan
1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Malaya to 19 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from Persia to 80 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
1 artillery moved from 72 Sea Zone to French Madagascar
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from India to Eastern Persia
Japanese take Eastern Persia from British
1 armour moved from West India to Eastern Persia
1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 80 Sea Zone to 39 Sea ZoneCombat - Japanese
Battle in French Madagascar
Battle in Shensi
Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
Russians defend with 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Japanese win, taking French Madagascar from French, taking Shensi from Chinese with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantryNon Combat Move - Japanese
1 bomber moved from Shensi to Anhwe
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
1 armour moved from Jehol to Manchuria
2 mech_infantrys moved from Jehol to ChaharPlace Units - Japanese
1 cruiser and 2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India
1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Kiangsu
1 infantry placed in MalayaTurn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 53 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 7
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;Combat Move - Americans
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
2 fighters moved from Iwo Jima to 6 Sea Zone
1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 3 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
Americans take 22 Sea Zone from Japanese
Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
2 fighters moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Algeria to 92 Sea Zone
2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Southern France
1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Southern France
2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Southern France
1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to AlbaniaCombat - Americans
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Scramble from Rome?
Kamikaze and scramble SZ6? If you hit both DDs (assuming both are targeted), will you submerge round one if possible?
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no scramble anywhere
yes on the sub question