Private Panic Axis vs Surprise Attack Allies + 12

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
Chinese buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol
Chinese take Jehol from Japanese
1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kiangsu
Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi

Combat - Chinese
Battle in Kwangsi
Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Japanese defend with 2 infantry
Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 0/3 hits
Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangsi, round 2 : 1/2 hits
1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi
Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 3 : 1/2 hits
Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry in Kwangsi, round 3 : 0/2 hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Kwangsi
Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 4 : 1/2 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangsi, round 4 : 1/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangsi
Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
1 infantry placed in Kwangsi
1 infantry placed in Kiangsi
1 artillery placed in Yunnan
1 infantry placed in Anhwe
1 infantry placed in Suiyuyan
1 artillery placed in Hunan

Turn Complete - Chinese
Chinese collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Dice Statistics:

Total
1 was rolled 14 times
2 was rolled 10 times
3 was rolled 8 times
4 was rolled 7 times
5 was rolled 6 times
6 was rolled 10 times
Average roll : 3.200
Median : 3.000
Variance : 0.759
Standard Deviation : 0.871
Total rolls : 55

Italians Combat
2 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 2.000
Median : 2.000
Variance : ?
Standard Deviation : ?
Total rolls : 1

Americans Combat
1 was rolled 7 times
2 was rolled 3 times
3 was rolled 2 times
4 was rolled 1 times
5 was rolled 2 times
6 was rolled 4 times
Average roll : 3.000
Median : 2.000
Variance : 1.278
Standard Deviation : 1.130
Total rolls : 19

Chinese Combat
1 was rolled 1 times
2 was rolled 1 times
3 was rolled 1 times
4 was rolled 1 times
5 was rolled 2 times
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 3.714
Median : 4.000
Variance : 0.167
Standard Deviation : 0.408
Total rolls : 7

Japanese Combat
1 was rolled 6 times
2 was rolled 5 times
3 was rolled 5 times
4 was rolled 5 times
5 was rolled 2 times
6 was rolled 5 times
Average roll : 3.250
Median : 3.000
Variance : 0.444
Standard Deviation : 0.667
Total rolls : 28

triplea_38801_Chi4.tsvg

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TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia
British take Ethiopia from Italians
2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Egypt
1 transport moved from 123 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 123 Sea Zone to Iceland
1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
2 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
1 infantry moved from Shan State to Siam
UK_Pacific take Siam from Japanese
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
2 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia
2 fighters moved from Malta to Egypt

triplea_38801_Bri4.tsvg

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
British buy 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia
British take Ethiopia from Italians
2 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Egypt
1 transport moved from 123 Sea Zone to 117 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 123 Sea Zone to Iceland
1 transport moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
2 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
1 infantry moved from Shan State to Siam
UK_Pacific take Siam from Japanese
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
2 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia
2 fighters moved from Malta to Egypt

Combat - British
Battle in Egypt
British attack with 2 armour, 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
British roll dice for 2 armour, 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 2 : 2/8 hits
Italians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Egypt, round 2 : 1/3 hits
1 mech_infantry owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
British roll dice for 2 armour, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in Egypt, round 3 : 5/7 hits
Italians roll dice for 1 fighter in Egypt, round 3 : 0/1 hits
1 fighter owned by the Italians lost in Egypt
British win, taking Egypt from Italians with 2 armour, 4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
Battle in Iceland
British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry
British roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Iceland, round 2 : 1/2 hits
Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Iceland, round 2 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iceland
British win, taking Iceland from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from India to Burma

Place Units - British
1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Quebec
1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
4 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
UK_Pacific collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
Some Units in India change ownership: 4 infantry

Dice Statistics:

Total
1 was rolled 15 times
2 was rolled 12 times
3 was rolled 15 times
4 was rolled 16 times
5 was rolled 7 times
6 was rolled 12 times
Average roll : 3.312
Median : 3.000
Variance : 0.776
Standard Deviation : 0.881
Total rolls : 77

Germans Combat
4 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 4.000
Median : 4.000
Variance : ?
Standard Deviation : ?
Total rolls : 1

Italians Combat
2 was rolled 1 times
3 was rolled 2 times
5 was rolled 1 times
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 3.800
Median : 3.000
Variance : 1.750
Standard Deviation : 1.323
Total rolls : 5

British Combat
1 was rolled 1 times
2 was rolled 2 times
3 was rolled 5 times
4 was rolled 8 times
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 3.412
Median : 4.000
Variance : 3.188
Standard Deviation : 1.785
Total rolls : 17

Americans Combat
1 was rolled 7 times
2 was rolled 3 times
3 was rolled 2 times
4 was rolled 1 times
5 was rolled 2 times
6 was rolled 4 times
Average roll : 3.000
Median : 2.000
Variance : 1.278
Standard Deviation : 1.130
Total rolls : 19

Chinese Combat
1 was rolled 1 times
2 was rolled 1 times
3 was rolled 1 times
4 was rolled 1 times
5 was rolled 2 times
6 was rolled 1 times
Average roll : 3.714
Median : 4.000
Variance : 0.167
Standard Deviation : 0.408
Total rolls : 7

Japanese Combat
1 was rolled 6 times
2 was rolled 5 times
3 was rolled 5 times
4 was rolled 5 times
5 was rolled 2 times
6 was rolled 5 times
Average roll : 3.250
Median : 3.000
Variance : 0.444
Standard Deviation : 0.667
Total rolls : 28

triplea_38801_UK_4.tsvg

Private-Panic

Hi Kris

You understandably took J’s ACs as casualties sz45, meaning all the planes were subsequently lost. Given J’s odds on that combat (i.e. 100% given USA’s 11 HP and 22 power vs J’s 15 and 37) I would not have done that. Instead I would have been judging the battle as it went and taking carriers only as I felt necessary.

How do we sort this out?

Well done taking Egypt by the way and blocking my TTs from getting there!

Cheers
Adam

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Scrap a couple of planes and add a Carrier with planes, and maybe a damaged one, I cant remember all the hits without trying to go back thru the history.
I should have asked your OOL, sorry. I think we can figure out something.
Let me know what ya think
Kris

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I dont know how to re-roll the battle, planes defend better than carriers. R 1 It looks like I had 5 for 7 and you had 6 for 12, R 2 I had 3 for 5 and you had 5 for 10.
Do you know how to re-roll thru triple A
Kris

Private-Panic

Hi Kris

I don’t keep the MARTI rolls, so unless you do I think we have 2 options that don’t involve you redoing all 3 goes:

1. I revise J’s losses to match the number of hits achieved by the USA. That might mean “scrap a couple of planes and add a carrier with planes” as you suggest, but I would look more carefully than that. As you know, this advantages J as J’s defence rolls would have been less.

2. Re-roll the battle, but using the forum dice roller not triple A. We would both have to accept an outcome that may be worse for either J or USA. This seems fairer, so it is what I suggest. We’d have to post the dice rolls turn by turn allowing each nation to pick casualties.

Do you want to do option 2? In which case do you know how to do forum dice rolls? If not, I can do USA round 1 for you.

Cheers
Adam

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Number 2 sounds the best. I dont know how to roll forum dice, so that would be great if you can do that. I’ll take my tips and lowest dice first and save my best defense to be taken last.
Tanks and Cheers
Kris

Private-Panic

Okay Kris.

Americans attack with 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers

Let’s see if I can make this work! US attack dice:

2 battleships - Dice Rolling 2d6:
(5, 5)

1 cruiser - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(6)

2 destroyers - Dice Rolling 2d6:
(1, 5)

1 fighter - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(1)

1 tactical_bomber - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(1)

Private-Panic

That is 3 hits. J will take 1 on the battleship and 2 on one carrier.

Private-Panic

J’s attack dice:

1 battleship - :1d6:

3 carriers - :3d6:

1 cruiser - :1d6:

1 destroyer - :1d6:

4 fighters - :4d6:

2 tactical_bombers - :2d6

Private-Panic

Whoops! Trying again:

1 battleship - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(4)

3 carriers - Dice Rolling 3d6:
(1, 3, 5)

1 cruiser - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(2)

1 destroyer - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(6)

4 fighters - Dice Rolling 4d6:
(2, 4, 5, 6)

2 tactical_bombers - :dice 2d6

Private-Panic

4 hits there plus the TBs again!

Dice Rolling 2d6:
(1, 3)

Private-Panic

That is 6 hits in total. Sorry Kris!

What do you want to take as casualties?

I could guess but let’s get this battle finished with no more problems!

Private-Panic

One each on the battleship, two to kill the carrier, then both destroyers?

Leaving you with 2 damaged battleships, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber.

You also need to let me know whether you wish to continue or retreat. If the latter, where to?

Sorry that this is such a different outcome to triple A.

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Keep it going

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I scroll up the page to see the history, so I look at my combat for US, It shows the hits to dice as a fraction. Is there any way we can average the 5/7 and your 6/12 on R 1 of combat? If not thats cool too its only a game.
Never surrender!
Kris

Private-Panic

Had a look Kris. I was feeling bad about those round 1 re-rolls, so am happy to rethink. You are correct - on triple A the US got 5 hits and J got 6. So we could assign round one according to that and then use forum dice for round 2, etc to finish the combat.

Shall we do that?

Americans attack with 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers

J takes the 5 hits as 1 on the battleship, 2 on 1 carrier, 1 DD, 1 fig, 1 TB

Leaves 1 damaged BB, 2 undamaged carriers, 3 figs, 1 TB

How does US take the 6 hits? That is the same as the forum dice, so my guess is one each on the 2 BBs, 2 to kill the carrier and both destroyers? Leaving 2 damaged BBs, 1 cruiser, 1 fig and 1 TB.

As below, continue rather than surrender?

I will then continue with the forum dice.

Private-Panic

Actually I think I can proceed as above given your previous guidance as to casualties and not retreating. Hope so or we will be having to it yet again!

BTW am going to change the J fig casualty to the second TB.

So J has 1 damaged BB, 2 undamaged carriers, 4 figs left.

Round 2 - US:

2 damaged BBs - Dice Rolling 2d6:
(1, 5)

1 cruiser - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(1)

1 fig - :1d6:

1 TB - :1d6:

Private-Panic

Bloody hell!

1 fig - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(2)

1 TB - Dice Rolling 1d6:
(1)

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