Odonis (Axis) vs StuckTojo (Allies +21) G40L16 No Tech

Hello, Odonis:

I have a question for you, as you appear to be a much more experienced player than I am.

During Germany’s last turn you brought an attack force from W Germany via your transports in sz 112.  I was under the impression that the presence of a US sub in sz 112 rendered that sz a combat zone and thus transports couldn’t be loaded there.  Obviously there’s something I’m not understanding.

Can you explain how that rule works to me?  I’m still fairly new to 1940 2nd ed and have only been on AAA since January.  I know I’m misunderstanding the rule, so I’m not doubting or questioning the move, but obviously I would like to not make that mistake again, as that one really stung.

Thanks.  :-)

@Odonis:

its a valid question - actually, its only surface vessels that stop an embarkation, not submarines.

Good to know. Thanks.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Celebes to Kwangsi
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 cruiser moved from 44 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Philippines
            Battle in Kwangsi
                ANZAC attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour, 1 harbour and 2 mech_infantrys
                ANZAC win, taking Philippines from Japanese with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from New South Wales to Sumatra
            1 fighter moved from Sumatra to India
            1 fighter moved from Bulgaria to Northwest Persia
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 factory_minor placed in Queensland
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 21 PUs; end with 21 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

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TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 bombers moved from Bulgaria to 112 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 110 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
            2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sakha to Manchuria
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone

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Scramble sz 112?

@StuckTojo:

Scramble sz 112?

Also, scramble in sz 6?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 bombers moved from Bulgaria to 112 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 110 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
            2 bombers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sakha to Manchuria
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Manchuria
            1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 4 destroyers and 3 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 carrier and 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese
                Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers and 3 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 18
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 carrier and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Manchuria
                Americans attack with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
                Americans win, taking Manchuria from Japanese with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
            Battle in Romania
                Americans attack with 1 artillery and 3 mech_infantrys
                Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                1 artillery owned by the Americans retreated to Bulgaria
                Germans win with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Americans: 3 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Norway
            Trigger Chinese Destroy Factories Manchuria Americans: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Chinese in Manchuria

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber could not land in 6 Sea Zone and was removed
            2 bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 destroyers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            2 bombers moved from Manchuria to Korea
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Korea
            1 fighter moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Korea: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 airfield and 1 factory_minor placed in Korea
            1 carrier placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States
            1 fighter placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 65 PUs; end with 66 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 91 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Kweichow

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kwangsi
                Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Kweichow
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kweichow from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Kweichow to Yunnan

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Kweichow
            1 infantry placed in Kwangsi

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 6 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - British
            British repair damage of 3x factory_major; Remaining resources: 36 PUs;
            British buy 6 armour; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            3 armour moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            7 fighters moved from Syria to Northwest Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangtung
                  UK_Pacific take Kwangtung from Japanese
            2 armour moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

Combat - British
            Battle in Szechwan
                British attack with 2 armour and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
                British win, taking Szechwan from Japanese with 2 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Northwest Persia
                British attack with 4 armour, 7 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 10 armour
                British win, taking Northwest Persia from Germans with 1 armour, 6 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 13
                Casualties for Germans: 10 armour
                Casualties for British: 3 armour, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - British
            6 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Iraq
            1 battleship moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Persia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Eastern Persia
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to India
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma

Place Units - British
            3 armour placed in Iraq
            3 armour placed in Persia

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
            1 bomber moved from Sumatra to Hunan
            1 bomber moved from Yunnan to Kiangsu
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Kiangsu
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Kiangsu
                ANZAC attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                ANZAC win, taking Kiangsu from Japanese with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Hunan
                ANZAC attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
                ANZAC win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Trigger Chinese Destroy Factories Kiangsu ANZAC: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Chinese in Kiangsu

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 bomber moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            1 bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from India to Persia
            1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 artillery placed in Queensland
            2 transports placed in 54 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 36 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to 45 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 21 PUs; end with 24 PUs total

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