Becoming a better Axis & Allies player

Anyone know why there id no main topic thread listed for Axis & Allies First Edition (released ???).
I have a Milton-Bradley 1985 edition (although the map is ‘changed’ due to the map being an ‘atrocious eyesore’ garbage depiction of geography - almost anyone could have done better).

it honestly never occured to me to check out lite. Think i’ll do that.

But I assume you’ve played a lot of historical, so maybe you can tell me, does the russia, then axis, then allies, then axis & allies ad nauseum turn structure alter the gameplay in anyway, does it effect balance negatively?

I mean one of the major components of OOB A&A revised that is integral to strategy it seems is that something can be done on one powers turn that cannot be undone until anothers, or that something is pointless to do because it will be undone on the next powers turn, etc.

If say germany and japan go at once, does it open possibilities for unbalanced moves that are hard to counter?
Or conversely, on the allied turn, russia/india can be reinforced it seems to a greater extent before otherwise “normal” axis gains can be made (for example normally germany and japan will get to make a little progess before the US or UK can field units to help defend russia)

I will say again, that the revised historical map is superior in one vital way, to me, that other maps are not, and that is the ipc values for nuetrals and the increased number of victory cities, just having this on the map opens many new rules possibilities that can help break the monotonous mold of most games were the same moves are made over and over and the dice are largely the grand determiners of success.

Sure there are a great many more “gorgeous” maps out there, in terms of the color scheme, layout, addition of convoy zones and such, but most seem to lack the expanded IPC listings, the numerous victory cities, and yet still closely match the revised map enough for my tastes.

anywho, thank you again for a wonderful map and the numerous ideas.

As far as I know there isn’t a newer version then the 2004 one.

I think mostly online play, which there are various tools available to make it easier.

For instance, I believe this Club uses the old 1998 CD for Online play:

http://www.axisandalliesworldclub.com/

Whereas others like to Play by Email.

My only suggestion might be to try here, the atari tech support, maybe they can email you a code???
I don’t know there email, but it must be somewhere on this page:

http://www.atari.com/us/support/newfaq/axisallies2004.php?browser=1&pageDisplay=DOWNLOADS

The game does freeze your comp. occasionly and it sometimes right when your about to win :evil: ! Don’t know why it does it but there are “pathes” to fix it…

GG

I posted this in the axis and allied forum but id figure id post here too…

Ok, basically, can transports unload troops for an assault on the same turn that you destroyed the navy around that island?

In my first game (still under way…) my friend as the US dropped a AA gun on midway and also dropped some planes there as well (why, no reason…just cause he didnt see a threat…)

Then Japan decided to strike the massive navy he had around midway then drop some infantry in midway with fighter support to take out the bombers stationed there.

Is this a legal move?

Shouldnt the battle around midway have to take place one turn before the invasion of the island?

If not, then how come I cant take a landlocked territory and then blitz through with some tanks and air support to hit the next?

My friend (the only one who has played the game before…) says that you CAN take the sea territory then rush assault the island in the same turn, but that you cant take a land territory, blitz through with tanks and take an adjecent territory.

These two acts are exactly the same, just involving different units. In one your waging a battle, bringing in transports and dropping off troops. In the other your waging a battle, bringing in tanks and attacking with them.

My friend argues that its because all of this is done at once and that the transport unloads during the combat. However, couldnt it be said that the tanks had already planned on rushing through the battle to blitz the next territory? If transports are allowed to drop off troops and attack an island after the naval battle, why arent tanks granted the same privalege on land?

Tanks could be used the same way, make them vaulnerable during the initial fight, but not able to fight back. It doesnt seem fair that its one way but not the other. And it especially doesnt seem fair that my friend didnt tell us about this rule before it came back and bit us in the ass.

We stopped the game before this act to find out which way was right. Because if the transports are allowed to drop off its forces then the allies basically lost because 3 bombers and a fighter will be destroyed. However, I could have destroyed a similar force with my tanks but was told I could not because they couldnt go through a conquered territory until next turn.

Just doesnt seem fair…

whats the official rules? we couldnt find anything about transports unloading after the coastal territory was won.

As well Wehrmacht, i woul dnever go for the ukraine as Russia in turn 1. Whoever holds EE has the initiave in the war, so that’s where i would do the battle… and it would become a 1-2-3 punch in few rounds…

the maximum out put of any Ic that you did not start with is limited to the teretorys IPC value