L16 G40 StuckTojo (Allies +16) vs Simon33 (Axis) Game III

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 4 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Libya
                  Americans take Libya from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Eastern United States to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 55 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 43 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win, taking 43 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 submarines
                Americans win, taking 109 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 2 submarines
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 4 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            2 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
            1 submarine moved from 1 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Southern France
            1 bomber placed in Eastern United States
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 3 submarines and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 bomber placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 61 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 83 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Hunan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Kwangsi
                Chinese attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Kwangsi from Japanese with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Yunnan

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Kweichow
            1 infantry placed in Kansu
            3 infantry placed in Yunnan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 8 PUs; end with 8 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 14 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            6 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Scotland
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi
            1 armour moved from Yunnan to Shensi
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Yunnan to Hopei

Combat - British
            Battle in Hopei
                British attack with 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Hopei from Japanese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Shensi
                British attack with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                British win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Egypt
                British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 harbour
                British win, taking Egypt from Italians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Battle in Scotland
                British attack with 4 fighters and 6 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield and 3 artilleries
                British win, taking Scotland from Germans with 4 fighters and 6 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 3 artilleries

Non Combat Move - British
            4 fighters moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Volgograd
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from Malaya to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Siam to India
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from India to Yunnan
            1 armour moved from India to Eastern Persia
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia

Place Units - British
            9 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 mech_infantry placed in Persia

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
            British collect 30 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 30 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,2
            UK_Pacific collect 10 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour and 1 infantry

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 fighter and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from Kansu to Volgograd

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Queensland

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 19 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Germans

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Sorry. Clicked “done” instead of “Post”. Not quite sure what I should have done there.

No scramble.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
                  Russians take Archangel from Germans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Vologda to Novosibirsk
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour
                Russians win, taking Novosibirsk from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
            Battle in Bryansk
                Russians attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Bryansk from Germans with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            5 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda

Place Units - Russians
            1 infantry placed in Volgograd
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 19 PUs total

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WTF?!?!

I literally could NOT see that destroyer underneath all the equipment on Gibraltar. It’s totally obscured. Obviously I would have attacked it if I had known it’s there because my whole move was predicated on moving stuff into S France. I wouldn’t have brought so much unnecessary overkill into W France had I realized that.

I’m asking if you mind if I re-do this turn. I know it’s technically my screw-up, but I think the poor layout of this game caused it at least as much as I did.

Thanks, I’ll wait for your verdict.

Sorry, the destroyer off of Gibraltar (sz 92).

I intended to bring my US navy into the Med, thinking that sz 92 was empty. It sure looked empty, but there’s actually an Ital. destroyer in there but it’s buried underneath all the UK stuff from Gibraltar. You can see it if you really look closely, but when I glanced at it I totally missed it under there.

@simon33:

@StuckTojo:

Sorry, the destroyer off of Gibraltar (sz 92).

I intended to bring my US navy into the Med, thinking that sz 92 was empty. It sure looked empty, but there’s actually an Ital. destroyer in there but it’s buried underneath all the UK stuff from Gibraltar. You can see it if you really look closely, but when I glanced at it I totally missed it under there.

What I mean is that DD was only moved in I7.

@simon33:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

I see the confusion now.

I’m referring to redoing the turn for the US that is not yet posted and is in progress. You should have received emails from MARTI regarding the dice battles that have already been rolled.

Basically I attacked you in W France and brought a whole lot of unnecessary air power overkill that I would have sent against that Ital. destroyer that you moved in I7… had I known it was there.  Because I couldn’t see the destroyer behind all the stuff I assumed that I would be able to reinforce S France with my navy and transports. To my surprise I couldn’t move my stuff when I went to do non-combat, and only then saw the very tip of the destroyer’s nose poking out from behind the Gibralter air base.

Admittedly, it’s partly my mistake. Had I read closely Italy’s posted non-combat moves I would have known the dd was there, or if I had looked more closely at the sea zone I would have seen the tip of the dd’s nose sticking out from behind the Gib. air base.

However, I think it’s also poor layout design on the game’s part. There’s no reason to bury the sea unit behind Gib.'s land units as there is lots of room there.

So basically I’m asking if I can redo my combat round for the US turn that’s currently in progress, i.e. take out that destroyer in sz 92 so I can move my navy in the non-combat round.

On the one hand I won all the battles handily, so you might benefit from re-rolling them (see MARTI emails), especially since now I have to commit some units to sz 92.

On the other hand if you don’t let me re-play the combat round you would benefit even more as I won’t be able to reinforce S France like I intended.

I’ll leave it up to you and won’t harbour any grudges no matter what you decide. I don’t do a whole lot of edits compared to some other players and usually accept my mistakes. However, this is one instance where I think a person can reasonably be forgiven for missing the dd considering how hidden it was.

Does that make sense?

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France
            1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
**            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone**

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Bryansk
                Italians attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 aaGuns moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 aaGun, 3 artilleries, 1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 aaGun and 3 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            2 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 17 PUs

Are you sure there is something that you would change since then?