L16 G40 Simon33 (Axis) vs Amon-Sul (Allies +22)

@Amon-Sul:

@simon33:

@Amon-Sul:

Nice move with the destroyer (sz 6).

It’s one of my standards.

If I keep my transports in sz 6, while attacking ��� des, can i load units from Korea and unload it in ncm?

with those same 2 transports?

I suppose I can. I`ll proceed.

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 factory_minor, 7 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
                  Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 19 Sea Zone from Japanese
            3 fighters moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 cruiser moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

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@Amon-Sul:

I suppose I can. I`ll proceed.

I`ll move the empty tras now in ncm.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 factory_minor, 7 infantry and 6 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
                  Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 25 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Marshall Islands
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 19 Sea Zone from Japanese
            3 fighters moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 cruiser moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Morocco
                Americans attack with 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Italians defend with 1 artillery
                    Americans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Morocco, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 artillery in Morocco, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians lost in Morocco
                Americans win, taking Morocco from Italians with 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 transports
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Japanese
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 35 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 35 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/3 hits
                    2 carriers owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 4 :  4/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser and 2 transports in 35 Sea Zone, round 4 :  1/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Americans, 2 transports owned by the Japanese and 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 38
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 2 transports
                Casualties for Americans: 2 fighters
            Battle in Marshall Islands
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 transports
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 2 submarines in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 transports in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Marshall Islands from Japanese with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            EDIT: 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Guam
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to Gibraltar
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 89 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 89 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 90 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 87 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 123 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
            2 infantry moved from Brazil to British Guiana

Place Units - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Korea: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 6 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            7 infantry placed in Central United States
            6 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 factory_minor placed in Korea

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 76 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Marshall Islands : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Korea : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor
    Manchuria : 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    Guam : 1 airfield and 1 bomber
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Midway : 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    32 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    21 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    19 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    6 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 submarines
    Central United States : 1 factory_major and 7 infantry
    Southeast Mexico : 4 aaGuns and 2 mech_infantrys
    Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Gibraltar : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
    British Guiana : 2 infantry
    Morocco : 1 flag, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    125 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    96 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    109 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    92 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    101 Sea Zone : 6 transports
    79 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    Brazil : 1 flag
    91 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 submarines and 4 transports
    105 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

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TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
                  Chinese take Hopei from Japanese
            1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
                  Chinese take Hopei from Japanese
            1 fighter and 5 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 5 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 5 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 :  1/6 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Suiyuyan
                Chinese win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Manchuria

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Shensi
            1 infantry placed in Manchuria

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Manchuria : 1 fighter and 1 infantry
    Shensi : 1 infantry
    Suiyuyan : 5 infantry
    Hopei : 1 infantry

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TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Libya to Algeria
                  British take Tunisia from Italians
                  British take Algeria from Italians
            1 bomber moved from Persia to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Scotland to Eire
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Eire
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
                  Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 armour moved from Libya to Algeria
                  British take Tunisia from Italians
                  British take Algeria from Italians
            1 bomber moved from Persia to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 8 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Scotland to Eire
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Eire
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
                  Chinese take Yunnan from Japanese

Combat - British
            Battle in Eire
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 8 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Eire, round 2 :  5/12 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Eire, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the British, 1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 artillery owned by the Germans lost in Eire
                British win, taking Eire from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber
                Italians defend with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                1 submarine owned by the Italians Submerged
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 98 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from Iraq to 80 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Italian Somaliland to Ethiopia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                  British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Persia
            1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eire to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
            2 fighters moved from Quebec to Iceland
            5 aaGuns moved from United Kingdom to Scotland
            1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            2 transports placed in 106 Sea Zone
            1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
            1 fighter placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,6
            British collect 34 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 34 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Territory Summary for British and UK_Pacific :

Yunnan : 1 mech_infantry
    India : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    West India : 2 infantry
    Iceland : 1 airfield and 2 fighters
    Quebec : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
    Trans-Jordan : 1 infantry
    Gibraltar : 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 5 aaGuns and 1 airfield
    Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Algeria : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Tobruk : 1 flag
    Libya : 1 flag
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 transports
    Eire : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    109 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    Iraq : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag
    79 Sea Zone : 1 battleship and 1 transport
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 bomber
    91 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber

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@simon33:

@Amon-Sul:

I suppose I can. I`ll proceed.

That’s correct. You just can’t load them in the combat movement or if you don’t sink the surface warships in the combat.

The program did not allowed me to load them in ncm too. is it a bug or?

or should i move tra in cm, and then move and load again in ncm?

@simon33:

Oh perhaps that is where one of the transport exceptions applies. But edit.

I`ll ask Gamerman for advice.

Gamerman was offline. I asked Variance.

**˝If the transport was in the battle it cannot move in NCM (stuck in z6)

It could move out before combat but not loaded.˝**

So, my empty tras are in Guam sz. Land units in Asian mainland.

U may proceed with Italy.

Cheers :)

@simon33:

Ok, but since I agreed to it beforehand we can allow an exception to the rules in this case.

I guess to move in combat movement, you have to load in combat movement which means you also have to unload. To my knowledge, sea and land units can’t move in combat movement and then again in NCM, with no exceptions.

Yes. I thought i can load if I keep them present in sz 6 during combat move.

My move was just to move them empty to Guam sz, because the rules do not allow loading in a hostile sz, nor loading with the transport in ncm, which stayed there during cm.

Ur move with the destroyer was pretty good and I have no choice but to move empty tras to Guam.

Good night :)

@simon33:

The reason for the move was to force the CVs in particular to expose themselves to Kamikaze’s, then I could attack the surviving fleet likely with reduced air cover.

Oops, just realised it’s my turn.

Nice plan. I attacked with subs and air only, otherwise kamikaze could decimate my navy.

ANZAC goes :)