Sub vs carrier and plane

@Panther

Yep…

@andrewaagamer

Thank you! That was very helpful!

Yea my bad, makes sense that the attacking sub would have the choice to submerge in the sz that the battle took place (no enemy dd present), or retreat 1 adjacent sz from where it came.

Yes, you are right. I read it too late in the evening.  :-D
It is just a different formulation, finally.

@barney:

Hi rensferreira

Your planes can only move 4 total. You can’t move the carrier with the planes and then move the planes 4 more.

Actually you can move the carrier 2 and then the plane 4 but the planes and carriers have to be different nationality.

For example. Lets say a USA carrier has 2 ANZAC fighters on it. The carrier can move 2 in USA’s turn and then the planes can move another 4 on ANZAC’s turn.

@SunTzu7:

Just wanted to check a sub rule. If a sub goes up against other non transport, non destroyer type ships (in this instance a damaged carrier and cruiser), can the sub keep doing a surprise attack till the opposition are destroyed without them firing back? That’s how my friend read the rules.

Like Brado explained, yes the sub gets a “surprise strike” each round.  But the defending carrier and cruiser do fire back every round provided it was not sunk by the sub surprise strike.

So in your example, if the sub hit, the defender would choose a casualty.  Whatever he chooses will not roll (will not fire back) but the other unit will fire back.
Subs get surprise strikes at the beginning of every single round of combat (the first round AFTER the last enemy destroyer is sunk), even when they are on defense.

If you read through Step 2 under General combat (Submarine Surprise Strike or Submerge), the rule book tells exactly how to handle sub combat and makes it very clear that surprise strike happens every round, and also how to handle surprise strike casualties.
One such sentence:
“As long as there are attacking and/or defending submarines and no opposing destroyers, this step is repeated during each round of combat.”

Thanks for the answers, I had figured as much.  I might have to re-print the rules and go over them again with the gang next Saturday.

No.  You can leave the CV in SZ 8 during Combat moves.
You’re operating under the assumption that you will win the SZ 6 battle and move the CV to SZ 6 during Non-combat.

Now if you lose the SZ 6 battle - and you will - your fighter crashes into the ocean, but the CV can move anywhere else it wants during Non-combat.