G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread

The UK can’t take control of FIC before Japan takes it - it would remain blue

And of COURSE the USA would care if Japan attacked UK forces in FIC

The whole reason Japan attacked Pearl Harbor at the same time as all the European holdings is because they knew the USA would use the Pearl Harbor fleet to come after them - “knife aimed at our throat” and all that.

They didn’t attack the USA for the sake of attacking the USA

He’s probably talking about a Vichy FIC.

You are right that it doesn’t make as much sense, but for the sake of simplicity and brevity (and staying true to the original rules) it’s better to leave it like this, unless you have an elegant solution.

You probably posted this while I was editing

If Japan attacked UK forces in SE Asia, the USA oil would definitely stop.  Simple as that

@Gamerman01:

You probably posted this while I was editing

If Japan attacked UK forces in SE Asia, the USA oil would definitely stop.  Simple as that

Not if UK was the one who declared war on Japan, which is what Karl said.

No, the oil would still stop.  It was about to stop anyway.  If Japan was waging war with European powers or their holdings, the oil would stop no matter who started the war.

@Gamerman01:

No, the oil would still stop.  It was about to stop anyway.  If Japan was waging war with European powers or their holdings, the oil would stop no matter who started the war.

Perhaps, but in the game rules it is assumed that the oil wouldn’t stop if UK declared war first, since Japan still has that NO if it doesn’t attack FIC and takes UK holdings and the DEI.

Good point -

I think the game rules are wrong about that

So we’re agreeing it’s a good idea to leave it as is

So SUCK IT Karl!!  :-D

@Gamerman01:

Good point -

I think the game rules are wrong about that

So we’re agreeing it’s a good idea to leave it as is

I don’t think you two are agreeing…

What sense would it be for the US to cut off oil only if Japan attacks FIC, but keeps it flowing if Japan takes the DEI, or India for that matter, if UK DOWs first…?

If FIC goes Vichy, is occupied by UK, UK DOWs on Japan, then Japan should be able to take it without nullifying the NO.

We are agreeing that the rules don’t need to be changed (unless someone comes up with a preferable solution)

@Karl7:

If FIC goes Vichy, is occupied by UK, UK DOWs on Japan, then Japan should be able to take it without nullifying the NO.

Yeah and you totally threw me off with your post at first because you said nothing about Vichy

I suppose you have a point.  The FIC rule was made when Vichy was not a thing.  You’re just like me, finding problems with the overlay of BM on 2nd edition (allied marines on cruisers)

It’s just so fun to give you a hard time because of your (beautiful and special) personality

Well balanced mod guys (Adam)?  All you have to do is add a statement to the Vichy rules to fix this.  I don’t know if the coding to TripleA is a big deal or not, but there are plenty of things we have to edit for anyway.

Cool, fix that, make Sicily adjacent to S. Italy and we are good to go!

Is there a list of proposed fixes?

@Karl7:

Cool, fix that, make Sicily adjacent to S. Italy and we are good to go!

Is there a list of proposed fixes?

I’m keeping a list.

Is it really worth the added complexity to fix such a small issue though?

I would say no FWIW
KISS

@Karl7:

Cool, fix that, make Sicily adjacent to S. Italy and we are good to go!

Is there a list of proposed fixes?

That would make the Axis significantly weaker I would think. Given that Allies are mostly considered to have the edge in BM, I can’t see it.

Would be really interesting if you limited the number of ground units that could cross from Italy to Sicily or Sicily to Italy to 2 or 3 per turn (without transports) but that would be a new, unique rule…

You could always house rule it with individual opponents, of course.  I mean, you don’t have to change the rules for everyone so that you can enjoy it

I joke about Sicily… that would be a game changer requiring other adjustments that I haven’t worked out…

The FIC thing is rare I enough I guess… but it is illogical

add it to the long list of illogicals  :-)

I was thinking that you needed to have uncontested naval control of the sea zone in order to ferry troops between Sicily and S Italy (and vice versa).