G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread

On the first point, I don’t really think it’s a slight change. A major reason to not play the Italy Strong strategy in G40 is that it divided the Italians too much. Yes there was also the factor of not giving the Germans enough income/money. Vichy sends the first factor out. You don’t need to attack Southern France or SZ93.This makes Italy strong a more viable strategy in BM than G40 or it would if you could combine it with Vichy. This may well be a reason to keep things as it is though.

Curious what others think?

To simon - I’m sympathetic to your point about Vichy + Italy taking Paris, so I would suggest that you houserule that no units starting the game in Paris may move

Aren’t you still going to have a problem if Britain chooses to reinforce South France with a plane or two and/or a transport load?  Perhaps you could houserule that too - that Britain is not allowed to reinforce French territories in Europe on UK1.  You might have to give your opponent a concession though, but I bet you can find people to agree to play that way with you

Another alternative that would be more elegant, is to strike the Vichy rule requirement that there are no Allied land units in South France (#3)

When were these Vichy rules changed?  With the last update I guess?  I missed the announcement, if there ever was one.

Well I have a question about the new #3 Vichy requirement about non-Allied land units in South France.
Is AAA considered a land unit for this purpose?  I would think yes, because AAA is normally considered a “regular” land unit except that it can not claim a friendly neutral by itself.

It is conceivable that an allied player would transport the AAA from Malta to South France (and no infantry)

I see now that it IS highlighted in blue in the BM rules thread, original post, but I forgot that even existed - just rely on the notes in Triple A (which were changed, but are not highlighted)

So consider this your notice, players playing BM - you may want to re-check the BM rules original post on the forums and review everything Kid highlighted in blue

Yes the AA alone would prevent Vichy.

Thank you

@Gamerman01:

To simon - I’m sympathetic to your point about Vichy + Italy taking Paris, so I would suggest that you houserule that no units starting the game in Paris may move

Aren’t you still going to have a problem if Britain chooses to reinforce South France with a plane or two and/or a transport load?  Perhaps you could houserule that too - that Britain is not allowed to reinforce French territories in Europe on UK1.  You might have to give your opponent a concession though, but I bet you can find people to agree to play that way with you

Another alternative that would be more elegant, is to strike the Vichy rule requirement that there are no Allied land units in South France (#3)

Yes moving a transport to SZ93 and landing at least one unit does block Vichy but that requires a sacrifice of other moves for the UK. I would normally use that transport to hit Ethiopia. If you don’t do that, you either have to use the one from SZ39 which means it can’t activate Sumatra or allow Italy to more greatly endanger Egypt.

House ruling it out requires a fair bit of pre-planning. I really only would consider Italy Strong if I end a round in France with no more than 3 units remaining. Perhaps I could vary that but you don’t want to fail to take down France or have to apply air to it.

Perhaps just change the British tank in France to be French?

Do marines attack at 2 if attacking by land combined with other troops attacking the same territory amphibiously? Or do marines only get the boost stepping directly off the boat themselves?

Only if they step off the boat themselves.

Thanks, buddy!  :-D

Marines do get the bonus if the battle is considered an amphibious assault, so they do not have to step off the boats themselves if other units are coming from boats.

@Adam514:

Marines do get the bonus if the battle is considered an amphibious assault, so they do not have to step off the boats themselves if other units are coming from boats.

Hmm, ok. I didn’t know that.

Great! Thanks for the clarification, fellas!  8-)

I made a small clarifying edit to the balanced mod rules post
Kid, please let me know if you don’t like what I did - just edit it if you want
The rule does say “during amphibious assaults” but most people are probably like me and think that means the marines have to be unloaded and amphibiously assaulting themselves.  It would be great if the game notes in Triple A could be edited as well - I think this will be difficult to remember otherwise

Very interesting detail…… Makes me think marines should just attack at 2 by themselves in all circumstances, but that would take a coding change

It’s an XML change though isn’t it, not an engine change?

I would guess this “feature” is because the engine only knows that the battle is amphibious rather than the unit.

coding change, XML change…… all the same to this luddite

XML is the data. I can change that. I can’t necessarily change the code - requires approval.