Quick answer is that bids seem to keep going up with bids over 20 now common.
yes
just the dollar amount.
G40 Balance Mod - Feedback Thread
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Wasn’t Hitler looking for Atlantis or something?
:-D
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yah. history channel had a thing on that. so must be legit
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There a few things I hate about Balanced Mod, all to do with Amphibious Assaults.
- Why on earth should you be able to assault from a Cruiser or Battleship? None of those ships would carry the assault boats needed. Indeed, even boarding or alighting as an NCM away from a naval base is dubious
- Why should Marines get to attack on a 2? The combined arms artillery bonus is pretty silly too in an amphibious assault. It doesn’t really reflect the real world IMO.
Just thought I’d give that feedback. Maybe I’m wrong.
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Who would buy a marine thar attacked at 1?
And it’s all abstracted. Their boats come with the 5 ipc cost.
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There a few things I hate about Balanced Mod, all to do with Amphibious Assaults.
- Why on earth should you be able to assault from a Cruiser or Battleship? None of those ships would carry the assault boats needed. Indeed, even boarding or alighting as an NCM away from a naval base is dubious
- Why should Marines get to attack on a 2? The combined arms artillery bonus is pretty silly too in an amphibious assault. It doesn’t really reflect the real world IMO.
Just thought I’d give that feedback. Maybe I’m wrong.
Simon, there is significant historical precedent for warships carrying detachments of marines into combat. For starters, virtually all US battleships, during World War II, carried marine detachments (between 50 and 100 men), who, in addition to manning ship guns, served as ship expeditionary forces. See, e.g., http://seastories.battleshipnc.com/marines/
Smaller warships also carried marines. For example, it was a group of ship-borne Royal Marines that proved decisive in the Battle for Madagascar. From the relevant wikipedia article:
“The French defence was highly effective in the beginning and the main Allied force was brought to a halt by the morning of 6 May. The deadlock was broken when the old destroyer HMS Anthony dashed straight past the harbour defences of Diego Suarez and landed 50 Royal Marines amidst the Vichy rear area. The Marines created “disturbance in the town out of all proportion to their numbers” and the Vichy defence was soon broken.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Madagascar
Also noteworthy, the Japanese’ made extensive use of cruisers, destroyers, and even battleships as troop transports throughout the war. A few examples:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_Kitakami
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_battleship_Kirishima
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_HayanamiSo, yah, the idea of cruisers and battleships transporting small land forces is not only fun and good for the game, its historically accurate! HF!
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The Tokyo Express also really comes in handy in the Pacific. It’s annoying enough to go out island collecting, if you can send a cruiser with a marine on it instead of a cruiser and a transport it helps speed game play up a bit as well. (Thinking Marshals, Jonah, Guam, Midway, Formosa, etcetera…islands you may want to collect but don’t want to dedicate a fleet to getting and are probably un, or under, defended)
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Interesting points - note a couple of things:
- The Kitakami lost 40% of its torpedo tubes to fit in 2 assault boats
- The first link notes that the Marines transferred to a transport when they were planned to assault a beach
- I’d have thought an infantry represents significantly more than 100 troops.
But if you reckon it’s more fun that way, might give it a go.
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But if you reckon it’s more fun that way, might give it a go.
haha. so you haven’t even tried the mod yet. . . :roll:
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What’s with the eye roll? Aren’t I allowed to comment on it before trying?
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What’s with the eye roll? Aren’t I allowed to comment on it before trying?
my response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfr9gMbjPco -
I can’t STAND Thai food!
No, I’ve never eaten it, why do you ask?
:-P
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@Shin:
Who would buy a marine thar attacked at 1?
And it’s all abstracted. Their boats come with the 5 ipc cost.
Fair enough but I still feel that they’re overpowered. Maybe 1/1/1 and 3IPC cost with no bonuses? They’re supposed to represent a small detachment of troops.
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If they are that cheap, there’s no reason to buy Inf unless you’re going to pair them with Art.
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He said 1/1/1, so regular infantry would be much stronger on defense than his proposed marines, in addition to the no pairing with artillery, so stronger on offense many times too
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oh, d’oh! My mistake.
Huh. I suppose that could work, actually.
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Has BM2.0 fixed the SBR AAA and stopped you from choosing the tacs?
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Hmm, that’s weird. I just did an SBR with 3 Tacs + SB and it auto selected the 2 of the tacs. Didn’t ask me which ones either.
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@Shin:
If they are that cheap, there’s no reason to buy Inf unless you’re going to pair them with Art.
That is a valid criticism - so long as you are using them on the attack.
Would it be better to just have 4IPC cost and no amphibious assault bonus? I also don’t like them counting towards the number of ships able to bombard - perhaps the bombardment should be weaker one point weaker and also reduce the Marine’s attack to zero on the first round if a marine is supporting the bombardment?
If you did that, I reckon they’d be about as perfect a unit as I could dream up.
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I’ve got a few games of this going, and I’d have to say I’m finding that it makes a lot of previously dynamic decisions automatic. Some of them:
- Concentrate G1 attack on France or diversify to claim more territory. I reckon this is now automatically a claim Normandy but not Sth France
- USSR DOW on Japan. Now out to claim a bonus.
- USSR Eastern forces defend the east or run back to Moscow? Now automatically run back to Moscow
- Japan DOW on USSR. This one now swings a bit more I guess. Gives some money to USSR but also takes some away. Not really enough to be worthwhile until the dying stages of Moscow’s stand though.
I’m sure there’s more but I can’t think of them OTOH.
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