Bid doesn’t post, but 1 IPC to Italy and 2 transports for Japan (sz 7,34)
16 G40 Axis-Dominion (Allies) vs. regularkid (axis) - Balance Mod
-
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 13
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 armour and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;Politics - Russians
Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for British and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for French and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_True from Strict_Neutral to War
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Germans from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Italians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Japanese from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Allies To War With TrueNeutrals: Changing Relationship for Neutral_True and Neutral_Axis from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_NeutralCombat Move - Russians
2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
2 fighters moved from Belarus to Novgorod
1 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Turkey
2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Turkey
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Turkey
3 armour moved from Rostov to Turkey
1 fighter moved from Russia to NovgorodCombat - Russians
Battle in Novgorod
Russians attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in Turkey
Russians attack with 6 armour, 1 fighter, 10 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
Neutral_True defend with 8 infantry
Russians win, taking Turkey from Neutral_True with 6 armour, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
Casualties for Russians: 8 mech_infantrys
Casualties for Neutral_True: 8 infantryNon Combat Move - Russians
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Turkey to Caucasus
1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Caucasus
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus
1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov
3 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Belarus
1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia
2 fighters moved from Novgorod to Belarus
8 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Iraq
2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 fighters, 16 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei
1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei
1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea ZonePlace Units - Russians
3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys placed in RussiaTurn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
Trigger Russians 7 Great Patriotic War: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs
Trigger Russians 2 Persia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 37 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Persia: 3 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Eastern Persia: 3 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 13
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 10 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;Politics - Japanese
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Chile
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Argentina
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Venezuela
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Sweden
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Switzerland
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Spain
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Portugal
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Turkey
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Saudi Arabia
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Afghanistan
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Mozambique
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to AngolaCombat Move - Japanese
1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to French Equatorial Africa
Japanese take French Equatorial Africa from French
3 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
3 infantry moved from India to West India
1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
Japanese take Queensland from ANZAC
2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to Western Australia
Japanese take Western Australia from ANZAC
1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to South Australia
Japanese take South Australia from ANZAC
1 armour, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 12 infantry, 2 tactical_bombers and 8 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan
1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
1 armour moved from Yunnan to Shan State
1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
1 infantry moved from Manchuria to JeholCombat - Japanese
Battle in Szechwan
Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Chinese defend with 1 infantry
Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to India
2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
1 fighter moved from Japan to French Indo China
1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
1 infantry moved from West India to Afghanistan
Japanese take Afghanistan from Neutral_True
1 aaGun, 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 7 infantry, 1 marine and 5 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Afghanistan
EDIT: 3 infantry moved from West India to India
1 armour moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline IslandsPlace Units - Japanese
1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in 6 Sea Zone
3 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
3 infantry placed in India
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 3 fighters
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to India: 3 fighters
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
Japanese undo move 4.
2 infantry placed in India
2 infantry placed in Japan
Japanese undo move 6.
1 infantry placed in Manchuria
1 infantry placed in French Indo ChinaTurn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 87 PUs; end with 87 PUs total
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs
Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 102 PUs -
TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 13
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 10 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;Politics - Japanese
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Chile
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Argentina
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Venezuela
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Sweden
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Switzerland
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Spain
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Portugal
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Turkey
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Saudi Arabia
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Afghanistan
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Mozambique
Trigger Japanese Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to AngolaCombat Move - Japanese
1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to French Equatorial Africa
Japanese take French Equatorial Africa from French
3 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
3 infantry moved from India to West India
1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to Queensland
Japanese take Queensland from ANZAC
2 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to Western Australia
Japanese take Western Australia from ANZAC
1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to South Australia
Japanese take South Australia from ANZAC
1 armour, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 12 infantry, 2 tactical_bombers and 8 transports moved from 55 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
1 infantry moved from Soviet Far East to Siberia
1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 mech_infantry moved from Hunan to Szechwan
1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
1 armour moved from Yunnan to Shan State
1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Hunan
3 artilleries, 4 infantry and 15 mech_infantrys moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 infantry moved from Buyant-Uhaa to Chahar
1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
1 infantry moved from Manchuria to JeholCombat - Japanese
Battle in Szechwan
Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Chinese defend with 1 infantry
Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantryNon Combat Move - Japanese
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to India
2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
1 fighter moved from Japan to French Indo China
1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
3 artilleries and 12 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
1 infantry moved from West India to Afghanistan
Japanese take Afghanistan from Neutral_True
1 aaGun, 2 armour, 8 artilleries, 7 infantry, 1 marine and 5 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Afghanistan
EDIT: 3 infantry moved from West India to India
1 armour moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline IslandsPlace Units - Japanese
1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in 6 Sea Zone
3 infantry placed in Union of South Africa
3 infantry placed in India
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 3 fighters
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to India: 3 fighters
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
Japanese undo move 4.
2 infantry placed in India
2 infantry placed in Japan
Japanese undo move 6.
1 infantry placed in Manchuria
1 infantry placed in French Indo ChinaTurn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 87 PUs; end with 87 PUs total
Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 97 PUs
Objective Japanese 2 Strategic Defense Perimeter: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 102 PUs
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing ownership of Mozambique from Neutral_True to Japanese
EDIT: Changing ownership of Angola from Neutral_True to Japanese
EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Angola: 2 infantry
EDIT: Removing units owned by Neutral_True from Mozambique: 2 infantry
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Rhodesia: 2 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Angola: 3 infantry
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Mozambique: 3 infantry
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Changing PUs for Japanese from 102 to 104
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode -
please use the most recent save (forgot to activate Angola and Mozambique)
Thanks
-
gg
-
really? thought u might see where the DOW neutrals went. Gave me a bit of an anxiety attack, tbh. Anyhow, gg man. Was fun.
-
really? thought u might see where the DOW neutrals went. Gave me a bit of an anxiety attack, tbh. Anyhow, gg man. Was fun.
yea i got discouraged seeing japan walk all over me everywhere.
i made a big mistake US9, when i had originally planned to buy an airbase (for algeria) and take scotland all out. however, i only realized i had forgotten to buy it AFTER i did the combats, and i didn’t really wanna ask for forgiveness, so i just played it out as is…but it really impacted my whole plan, as i could’ve possibly held scotland and made much more progress. instead i ended up holding ireland and it was far less optimal, and even caused me to get a bunch of units stuck there. the miserable result in turkey didn’t help matters either. i was hoping to lose no more than 3 or 4 mechs, not 8!
in any case, this is now TWO SL games i have lost, and they weren’t even close. so i don’t see why u guys are wanting to add the london NO. clearly allies are struggling as it is in a SL situation. no need to empower the axis any more.
-
yes turkey was harsh.
I think, in both games, your UK1 purchase/placement was so aggressive, that Sealion was not just viable, but a slam dunk. Axis obviously didn’t need the +5 to make Sealion work.under these circumstances. But what about games where UK makes the Sealion hurt a bit more (for example, building a factory in Egypt, but with 5 inf in UK. no scramble, etc.). The concern is that, without a sufficient inducement to Sealion, UK can have its cake (the UK1 Egyptian factory) and eat it too (making sealion so costly as to be unsustainable).
Bottom line is, a factory in Egypt on round 1, unless followed by viable Sealion, stifles the Med/Africa theaters too soon. And I thnk thats what we want to avoid. watchu think?
-
ok so what you’re saying, basically, is that you’d like to make the uk1 fac in egypt vanish from the playbook, further reducing the allies’ options and variability of play? i already feel like the BM, without the bid, has reduced variability somewhat (e.g., we no longer see russia getting involved in china as much, we no longer see the russians meddling in the middle east and africa with sometimes a hilarious cat-and-mouse type game going on there, i have yet to see a j1 dow, we don’t see germany having to come up with creative solutions to uk sub/air bids in the atlantic, and so on). sounds to me like if uk purchases up to 12 ipc or more anywhere other than in the atlantic–close to home–then u would like to see it severely punished with a SL, where the london NO is, in my opinion, an absolute insult to injury.
how fun is that for the uk player if his options are further limited? if he scrambles he is in serious danger of a sl. if he buys a fac or ab he is in danger of a sl. maybe from now on i’ll just plop all inf in london and call it a day? that’ll be my opening playbook from now on lol
yes turkey was harsh.
I think, in both games, your UK1 purchase/placement was so aggressive, that Sealion was not just viable, but a slam dunk. Axis obviously didn’t need the +5 to make Sealion work.under these circumstances. But what about games where UK makes the Sealion hurt a bit more (for example, building a factory in Egypt, but with 5 inf in UK. no scramble, etc.). The concern is that, without a sufficient inducement to Sealion, UK can have its cake (the UK1 Egyptian factory) and eat it too (making sealion so costly as to be unsustainable).
Bottom line is, a factory in Egypt on round 1, unless followed by viable Sealion, stifles the Med/Africa theaters too soon. And I thnk thats what we want to avoid. watchu think?
-
good post. Responding to your points:
“(e.g., we no longer see russia getting involved in china as much)”
My experience has been that Russia does get involved in China more often than not, with BM. It just happens later in the game. And early involvement by Russia is still very much a viable strategy. . . see any of Gamerman’s four games against me in BM, where he played allies. He DOWed Japan with Russia early on in each game, and won every time (cuz i suck).
“we no longer see the russians meddling in the middle east and africa with sometimes a hilarious cat-and-mouse type game going on there,”
I note that in your games against both me and Adam514, the Russians were very much involved in the Middle East and Africa. In more typical games, its true you won’t see Russia making a beeline for Ethiopia, Libya, etc. But, personally I don’t miss Russia’s adventures in the Southern Hemisphere. It may be hilarious, but its also a ahistorical and a bit gamey. I guess this one’s a matter of personal taste.
“i have yet to see a j1 dow”
It is true that J1DOW is not the slam-dunk that it is in the vanilla game. One of our goals with BM was to nerf J1DOW somewhat, while keeping it viable. Notably, Adam has J1DOWed in the majority of his BM league games, where he played Axis. He won all of those games.
“ok so what you’re saying, basically, is that you’d like to make the uk1 fac in egypt vanish from the playbook. . . .maybe from now on i’ll just plop all inf in london and call it a day? that’ll be my opening playbook from now on lol”
lol. The Mod Squad is still exploring the extent to which the proposed UK/Egypt NO would restrict UK’s strategic flexibility. It has been suggested, for example, that an Egypt FAC on UK1 would still be viable, provided UK buys 5 inf, does not scramble, and does not taranto. The question then becomes whether this opening leaves the Egypt FAC too vulnerable to capture? At any rate, given the substantial benefits a UK1 Factory in Egypt would confer, I have no problem saying to UK: “If you want the factory, you have to walk a narrow path to get there.” To be continued. . .
Suggested Topics
