16L Adam514 (Axis) vs PGMatt (Allies) Balanced Mod

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                  Japanese take Hopei from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 armour moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 marine moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 43 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win, taking 37 Sea Zone from UK_Pacific with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Guam
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in Java
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Guam from Americans, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Java from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            3 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 43 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 aaGun and 5 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            2 bombers moved from Yunnan to French Indo China

Place Units - Japanese
            1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 42 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 6 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 16 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 6 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from French Indo China: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 tactical_bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 53 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs

@PGMatt:

Am I reading the rule correctly that all pro-axis Vichy still count for the Italian NO even after the Axis broke the treaty?

My feedback on that is that breaking the treaty should change any pro-axis to pro-allied or even back to Free French.  From a purely game perspective, I don’t think having the fleet being sunk without a shot being fired, but giving Italy two NO’s effectively for taking Normandy is a bit much to stomach, especially considering that the Allies also lose 15 TUV in Inf.

I acknowledge that I could have landed a plane in south france and prevented some of the issues I’m seeing, but I dont think a game rule should functionally force a choice.

I didn’t mind the idea of the Axis losing the income from South France long term to not have to sink the French fleet and get the North Africa NO without allied intervention, but when I see on G2 incoming going to Germany, Italy collecting 2 NO’s without a shot being fired, and the loss of all the speed bump infantry I feel the rule might need some tweaking.

Yeah in this version pro-Axis territories do count towards Italy’s NOs, but we’ve since changed it so that only Southern France being Vichy counts for the NO. Axis need to control N Africa to get the NO, not it just being pro-Axis. I’ll edit off 5 from Italy if I get it without having control of all of territories to conform with the better version.

As Allies you would prefer not having those territories turn back to Free French in order to get some income out of them. Also, they stay pro-Axis to allow them to be blitzed by the Allies, and since the NO now requires actual control of the territories by Italy or Germany (or Japan), it doesn’t matter if they are pro-Axis or pro-Allies.

If you put at least 1 unit from UK or US for example in a territory that is about to turn Vichy, that territory stays Free French. It’s something to consider depending on the situation.

Yeah I agree with you which is why it was changed, thanks for the feedback!

Southern France being Italian or German also allows the NO of course, not it just being Vichy.

Yes of course, no worries.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
            Trigger Russians Allied Americans 3: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
                  Italians take Egypt from British
            1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Italians take Bessarabia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland
                  Italians take Eastern Poland from Russians

Combat - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                  Italians take Tunisia from Neutral_Axis
            1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 94 Sea Zone to Algeria
                  Italians take Algeria from Neutral_Axis
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 94 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 aaGun and 1 artillery moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania

Place Units - Italians
            1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 19 PUs; end with 20 PUs total
            Objective Italians 3 North Africa: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 30 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to British Guiana
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Alexandria to Trans-Jordan
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Trans-Jordan

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Trans-Jordan
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
            Battle in British Guiana
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                British defend with 1 bomber
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from British Guiana to Gibraltar
            3 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 6 artilleries and 17 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            3 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            6 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Greece to Romania
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 126 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Poland
            5 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Southern France
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 126 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 47 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

@PGMatt:

I should have started after Christmas!  all I’m doing is making mistakes.

I suspect my game play will be eratic over the next couple weeks, I hope you have a good holiday and new year.

I hope you have a good holiday and new year as well.

You are aware of this: ‘‘When not at war with Japan, Russia may not move into Asian territory east of East-Persia, except for in Russia itself and Mongolia.’’?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
                  Japanese take Hunan from Chinese
            3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Siam
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to Siam
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Malaya
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Siam
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Siam from ANZAC with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shan State
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 37 Sea Zone to Shan State
            2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to French Indo China
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            2 bombers moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 37 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 marine placed in French Indo China
            1 fighter placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 59 PUs; end with 60 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs

In the original game you are allowed to move into US controlled Korea while not at war with Japan, in the mod we prevent that (so that Japan isn’t forced to declare war on Russia just because 1 Russian inf is in US controlled Korea).