Offloading in sz containing an enemy sub

Thanks everyone. :)

@Krieghund:

There is no rolling versus defenseless transports.  By definition, transports that can retreat are not defenseless, so combat would be conducted normally.

Perfect. Thanks!

@Gravy:

Also, I’m attacking your lone sub with 2 of my own subs.  Do we all get a “first strike” ability since there are no destroyers involved.

Yes.

@Gravy:

I know you need a destroyer in order for planes to attack them but you don’t need a destroyer for lets say your battleship to attack an enemy sub do you?

No.

@calvinhobbesliker:

Yes

though technically I believe a submarine can only be “submerged” during the combat phase and after the combat phase ends it is no longer considered “submerged”. So during any collect income phase, submarines cannot be submerged for any reason regardless at that point in a turn.

I believe Kreig has previously expressed the problems with the rule as submarines are often “submerged” regardless and it’s a misnomer.

Yes, though such a movement would generally be made during noncombat movement.

Since they happen on two different turns, they can do both.

In order to collect full income from a territory/island adjacent to a convoy zone the zone must be free of enemy subs/surface warships, correct ?

sz19 is adjacent to 4 income producing territories with a total IPC value of 9. Does that mean , with the requiste number of units, one could deny the owner of the terriories 9 IPCs?

If a sz borders 2 territories one axis the other allied, and the sz contains ships/subs for both, both countries income must be adjusted ?

Moving warships, subs into a neutral convoy zone constitutes an act of war?

An act of war by Japan against any neutral (except Mongolia) results in a state of war with all allies while an ANZAC/UK attack on Japan maintains US neutrality. Should the US violate neutrality what is the Commonwealth status ?

US neutrality ends after J3. This means the US can attack on US3 ?

That’s workable. Anything would be better then 1 DD see’s everything right out of the box. You could even house rule something like that into AA50, just make it part of the radar tech. 1 for 1 until you get advanced radar(tech) then 1 DD see’s all subs. Its even kinda how the radar tech works. You fire AA guns @ 1 until you develop radar giving your AA guns a kill @ 2. Early in the game subs could easily out number DD’s, but you would still get limited detection. I might have to try this next game.

This would also work when air units & DD attack subs. Matched up 1 for 1. Excess subs would be allowed to submerge, unless the power w/DD & air units also has radar. At that point subs could not submerge til the DD is destroyed, just how it is now

Come on give subs more bite! :evil: