G40 house ruled2 wittmann(Axis) vs. nerquen(Allies)

hehe, primary intention was to allow Allies safer landings in Rome, so mechs from W Germany cannot reach it… but also realized in our first games that my planes from W Germany have now smaller range into MED… which is good for the game I believe. Sure, feel free to redo whole Ita2

ouch, you lost a bomber in UK, nasty… the rule about not collecting income from just conquered territories is hitting Axis hard… Pacific is crazy, both ANZAC and India are similar in economy to Japan now. I mean J3/J4 DOW is known to be not good for Japanese economy in OOB already, but here it feels brutal. Japan would be simply dead without its 21 planes now.

For next iteration I am thinking to remove 1 IPC from Guinea territories, they are not Islands per AA definition and they are already worth 5 IPC for ANZAC anyway, so no need to motivate extra fighting there by 2 IPC. And ANZAC is just a bit too rich now I would say… also in our first game it was operating in close to 30 income range.

Also collecting 0 IPC from just conquered enemy territories is maybe too hard on Axis (given that essentially both Russia and Calcutta have now about extra 5 IPC compared to OOB)…  maybe the rule about collecting income from just conquered territories shall be modified that any side collects 1/2 from just conquered territory, if it is a friendly side it is rounded up, if it is enemy it is rounded down, so it would be something like

territory production  owner/friend collects        enemy collects
          1 IPC                      1 IPC                              0 IPC
          2 IPC                      1 IPC                              1 IPC
          3 IPC                      2 IPC                              1 IPC
          4 IPC                      2 IPC                              2 IPC

So for example Japan would still collect 2 IPC from just taken Java and not 0 IPC as it is now… The rule would still have an impact on Axis as there is a lot of 1 IPC territories, where the advantage for defender is the largest.

@wittmann:

@nerquen:

hehe, primary intention was to allow Allies safer landings in Rome, so mechs from W Germany cannot reach it… but also realized in our first games that my planes from W Germany have now smaller range into MED… which is good for the game I believe. Sure, feel free to redo whole Ita2

I did not notice in the first game and probably kept excess Air and Navy in 98, thinking Germany could reach! Is better like this, but takes getting used to.
Will try and do Japan, but feel like I won’t win.
Losing the Bomber on its first run, hurt.

on my computer I have the map modified so I can visually see the distance is longer…. but we did not manage to get the modified map into your PC.

we can as well restart the game, would be fine for me. I also feel that the current rules are a bit too hard on Axis. What about restarting with this set of modifications:

1)  add back 1 AA to UK and 1 inf to Scotland so the difference to OOB is just -1 inf from Scotland (London a bit too weak against Sea Lion)
2)  Make both Guineas back to 0 IPC (ANZAC too rich)
3)  any side collects 1/2 from just conquered territory, if it is a friendly side it is rounded up, if it is enemy it is rounded down (AXIS economy felt too weak)

Any other suggestions? As per 21 Japanese planes, I still like them, in my view Axis are supposed to be strong militarily and Allies economically… Axis shall roll over for first but there shall be a pressure on them to act fast, otherwise Allied economy will overproduce them… in OOB, very fast Axis economy reaches that of Allies and then there is not really much Allies can do from that point

you could take either side in the new game, your choice

I would also make India, W India and Kwangtung back to their OOB IPC values. As we play now India has extra 6 IPC/turn (+1 form W India, India, Ceylon, Fiji, Samoa, Gilbert)… that is 2 inf per turn… so if Japan would like to attack India around turn 5-6 or so that is extra 10-12 inf in India by then what is quite a difference… Extra 4 IPC/turn so about 1 inf/turn shall maybe be better so India actually is attackable…

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia

I will edit purchased DD for a TT + 1 IPC, need your scramble orders… pretty much your opening

all battles went ok, last battle SZ11, only 2 hits for me :(, do you keep DD or cruiser to round 2?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 1 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 111 Sea Zone
            Battle in France
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 3 artilleries, 7 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys
                French defend with 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter and 6 infantry; British defend with 1 armour and 1 artillery
                Germans captures 20PUs while taking French capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking France from French with 6 armour, 3 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for Germans: 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for French: 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 artillery
            Battle in 106 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 submarines
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Germans win, taking 106 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                French defend with 1 cruiser; British defend with 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship and 1 cruiser
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Germans attack with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Allies defend with 5 infantry
                Germans win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 5 infantry
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the British
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 battleship and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Germans: 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Trigger Germans Conquer France: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_French_1_Liberation_Switch attached to French

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
                  Germans take Finland from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to Tobruk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
                  Germans take Bulgaria from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Romania
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
            2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 59 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 69 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 112 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 112 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 69 to 67
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 infantry and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Hunan

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsi
            3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
            1 artillery moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 artillery moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Japan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            1 infantry placed in Japan
            4 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 45 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Japanese from 45 to 41
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

J1 went just perfect not a single infantry lost for Japan. And yes, German subs are still super. Take your time with Allies move, turn1 bad decisions can be fatal.

just for reference: this is the current list of all house rules for this game

here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_RwORA5fLwJUVrzqQ9dgYmhIUMBBljZ9C5_uBTMOZ6E