G40 house ruled2 wittmann(Axis) vs. nerquen(Allies)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - British
            British takes Political Action: Political Action British To War With Japanese
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to Unprovoked
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Unprovoked
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Unprovoked
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                British succeeds on action: Political Action British To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Siam
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from India to Siam
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from India to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi
                  Chinese take Kiangsi from Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - British
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 2 artilleries, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in French Indo China
                British attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                retreated to French Indo China
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Siam
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Siam from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 submarine
                British win with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to 98 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Siam to Burma
            3 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to India
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Tanganyika Territory
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar

Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
            1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
            1 transport placed in 71 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 35 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 6 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 6 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for British from 35 to 33
            EDIT: Changing PUs for UK_Pacific from 28 to 27
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Combat - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 54 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 26 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 26 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 61 Sea Zone: 1 battleship
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                  ANZAC take Sumatra from Dutch
            3 fighters moved from Java to India
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                  ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            2 aaGuns moved from South Australia to New South Wales

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 32 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            2 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
            1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

I could not stand the genocide on Chinese anymore and collecting 15 IPC for being in war was also a strong motivation, never had such rich India and Sydney before :)

hehe, primary intention was to allow Allies safer landings in Rome, so mechs from W Germany cannot reach it… but also realized in our first games that my planes from W Germany have now smaller range into MED… which is good for the game I believe. Sure, feel free to redo whole Ita2

ouch, you lost a bomber in UK, nasty… the rule about not collecting income from just conquered territories is hitting Axis hard… Pacific is crazy, both ANZAC and India are similar in economy to Japan now. I mean J3/J4 DOW is known to be not good for Japanese economy in OOB already, but here it feels brutal. Japan would be simply dead without its 21 planes now.

For next iteration I am thinking to remove 1 IPC from Guinea territories, they are not Islands per AA definition and they are already worth 5 IPC for ANZAC anyway, so no need to motivate extra fighting there by 2 IPC. And ANZAC is just a bit too rich now I would say… also in our first game it was operating in close to 30 income range.

Also collecting 0 IPC from just conquered enemy territories is maybe too hard on Axis (given that essentially both Russia and Calcutta have now about extra 5 IPC compared to OOB)…  maybe the rule about collecting income from just conquered territories shall be modified that any side collects 1/2 from just conquered territory, if it is a friendly side it is rounded up, if it is enemy it is rounded down, so it would be something like

territory production  owner/friend collects        enemy collects
          1 IPC                      1 IPC                              0 IPC
          2 IPC                      1 IPC                              1 IPC
          3 IPC                      2 IPC                              1 IPC
          4 IPC                      2 IPC                              2 IPC

So for example Japan would still collect 2 IPC from just taken Java and not 0 IPC as it is now… The rule would still have an impact on Axis as there is a lot of 1 IPC territories, where the advantage for defender is the largest.

@wittmann:

@nerquen:

hehe, primary intention was to allow Allies safer landings in Rome, so mechs from W Germany cannot reach it… but also realized in our first games that my planes from W Germany have now smaller range into MED… which is good for the game I believe. Sure, feel free to redo whole Ita2

I did not notice in the first game and probably kept excess Air and Navy in 98, thinking Germany could reach! Is better like this, but takes getting used to.
Will try and do Japan, but feel like I won’t win.
Losing the Bomber on its first run, hurt.

on my computer I have the map modified so I can visually see the distance is longer…. but we did not manage to get the modified map into your PC.

we can as well restart the game, would be fine for me. I also feel that the current rules are a bit too hard on Axis. What about restarting with this set of modifications:

1)  add back 1 AA to UK and 1 inf to Scotland so the difference to OOB is just -1 inf from Scotland (London a bit too weak against Sea Lion)
2)  Make both Guineas back to 0 IPC (ANZAC too rich)
3)  any side collects 1/2 from just conquered territory, if it is a friendly side it is rounded up, if it is enemy it is rounded down (AXIS economy felt too weak)

Any other suggestions? As per 21 Japanese planes, I still like them, in my view Axis are supposed to be strong militarily and Allies economically… Axis shall roll over for first but there shall be a pressure on them to act fast, otherwise Allied economy will overproduce them… in OOB, very fast Axis economy reaches that of Allies and then there is not really much Allies can do from that point

you could take either side in the new game, your choice

I would also make India, W India and Kwangtung back to their OOB IPC values. As we play now India has extra 6 IPC/turn (+1 form W India, India, Ceylon, Fiji, Samoa, Gilbert)… that is 2 inf per turn… so if Japan would like to attack India around turn 5-6 or so that is extra 10-12 inf in India by then what is quite a difference… Extra 4 IPC/turn so about 1 inf/turn shall maybe be better so India actually is attackable…

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 117 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 118 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 103 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 108 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 113 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 124 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            3 armour, 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to France
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France
            3 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to France
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Poland to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to Yugoslavia

I will edit purchased DD for a TT + 1 IPC, need your scramble orders… pretty much your opening

all battles went ok, last battle SZ11, only 2 hits for me :(, do you keep DD or cruiser to round 2?