G40 house ruled2 wittmann(Axis) vs. nerquen(Allies)


  • The reason I moved my German cruiser back to my 9 TTs was that UK actually could do a nasty trick of building a carrier into SZ110 then … bomber escorted with a fighter would try to bomb W Germany airfield… unless I got 2 hits from my interceptors or airfield AA shoot down your bomber the airfield would get disabled… then French fighter off London could massacre my 9 defenseless TTs… you could still attempt it even against my cruiser… you would get 35% chance to actually kill all 9 TTs… pretty nasty.

    Maybe we shall consider restoring the original order as Italy, Anzac, French. The order there has some subtle but often dramatic effects. order of Japan vs. Russia I don’t think influences anything.


  • Italians will be bombing London escorting with 2 fighters, do your 3 fighters intercept?


  • I looked at many possibilities. was going to buy 5 Subs fro the Channel, but your Super Subs would have wasted them. Still think Germany does not need that bonus. I also think Russia will not be as strong as you think without the Lend Lease and Iraq’s money. Germany has 90 to spend, now that the UK got its NO. Sealion is still too viable, I think. We shall see. I think it is obvious that you are a better player, so perhaps I am not the best opponent fro you. I am happy to play more, as I am enjoying thr change, but realise you need to do most of the intelligent reasoning.


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  • well, I think it would be good to see that Axis can win in this situation… I would say you bit under-defended London in UK1 and Allies shall pay for it. I don’t like that in top play, Sea Lion is so rarely happening… it is very risky business for Axis, Japan has to slow down in Pacific to give Germany time, then it can still go badly in many steps, Italian bomber gets shot down by AA, or Germany loses too much air or even fails to capture London. If UK wants to prevent Sea Lion after that pro-Sea Lion G1 buy I believe UK shall be forced to buy defensively for London (6 inf + fighter) or even 9-10 inf…

    I also still like the German super subs there… but we can switch sides for next game(s) and if we will still see that Axis are too strong we can of course remove it. But in my school of thought in OOB rules I rarely invest any German money into navy… even that Sea-Lion feint buy in G1 is often ignored by London… in my German school, whatever money I put into navy are missing against Moscow… and those money in the sea do not bring any VC for Euro-Axis… it is just a question of time until UK/US overproduce Germany in Atlantic and either trash German fleet or force it to rot in Baltic. So by giving UK +5 NO for subs-free Atlantic and by giving Germany super-sub tech I want to motivate Germany to actually invest some money into the navy as I said in my games Germany tends to invest in land armies only, ignoring Atlantic and just clear any allied landings with mechs and bombers.


  • I always buy 6 and one FT, but I felt I had to have a DD. I bought 4 ad FT.
    I think buying a Factoey gir Egypt on UK1, warrants a Sealion, otherwise I would not change my Barbarossa plans.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
                1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Greece to 97 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Syria
                1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

    Combat - Italians
                Air Battle in United Kingdom
                    Italians attacks with 3 units heading to United Kingdom
                    Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
                Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                    1 bomber killed by AA
                    Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 0 damage total.
                Battle in Alexandria
                    Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Italians win, taking Alexandria from British with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Syria
                Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 submarine moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                2 aaGuns moved from Yugoslavia to Greater Southern Germany
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
                1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
                1 armour moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
                1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Greater Southern Germany

    Place Units - Italians
                1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,4,2,1
                Italians collect 16 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 16 PUs total


  • I was going to block Syria with the Frog DDs, but hot greedy and tried to kill the one in 95. Failed, so left it with the 98 fleet.


  • I am going to be a bit risky here… sending all that can reach to London (via SZ110)… except cruiser, carrier, fighter, tac and 2 subs are securing the landing TTs. You have 12% to break the landing if you scramble 3 fighters… I am counting here on my 88%. If you would get your 12% result there it is pretty much game over for Axis… BUT if your 12% scramble gamble would fail, and I would kill your fighters during landing then London would get smashed… so I am counting on the fact that you would not like to take 88% risk of getting trashed in London…

    So the question for you, do you scramble off London?

    Germany bought 2 infantry, 8 artilleries, 1 mech and 1 DD


  • No scramble. Thanks.
    Good luck!


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 8 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                2 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                1 carrier moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
                7 armour moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
                2 transports moved from 111 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone
                2 armour moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
                8 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
                7 armour, 9 infantry and 9 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
                9 armour, 11 infantry and 11 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                2 artilleries moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
                9 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
                2 fighters moved from 111 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
                1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

    Combat - Germans
                Battle in United Kingdom
                    Germans attack with 9 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 11 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                    French defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry; British defend with 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                    Germans captures 35PUs while taking British capital
                    Germans converts factory_major into different units
                    Germans win, taking United Kingdom from British with 9 armour, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 59
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 11 infantry
                    Casualties for French: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Casualties for British: 5 aaGuns, 2 fighters, 15 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Trigger Germans Conquer London: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Axis_Capture_London_Switch attached to Germans

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
                2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Western Germany
                1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
                1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
                2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
                3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 9 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
                1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
                2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
                1 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary
                1 artillery moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
                1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
                1 mech_infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Greater Southern Germany

    Place Units - Germans
                1 mech_infantry placed in Western Germany
                8 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany
                1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 47 PUs; end with 82 PUs total
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 87 PUs
                Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 92 PUs
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Changing PUs for Germans from 92 to 89
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode


  • Did you get 18 hits on R1?


  • London is gone, with over average result, I did not lose a single armor in the process, looks like my armors will start pushing Russia back home soon


  • I got 15 hits in round1, 11 expected on average. You got only 7, 8 were expected on average.


  • And you had all 9 Tanks left.
    I am not taking back England.


  • I will be lucky if I can keep you out of Russia for two turns.


  • looks like not, but the theory says that US can now go all in against Japan now and try to destroy it before Germany conquers Moscow… not sure how plausible it is… USA still probably shall get involved in European theater as well… otherwise Italy will just grow to a monster as well


  • I have only once faced a Sealion . I went mayve 16-18 rounds with Garg, before he won. Japanese victory.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

    Politics - Japanese
                Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                    Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
                Trigger Russians Allied Americans 5: Changing Relationship for Russians and Americans from Neutrality to Allied

    Combat Move - Japanese
                Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Japanese
                1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China
                      Japanese take French Indo China from French
                1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
                      Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific
                1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
                2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
                1 armour moved from Siam to Malaya
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                2 infantry moved from Siam to 37 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
                1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
                2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to Philippines
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Japan to 18 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
                1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
                      Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Burma
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
                1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
                1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Malaya
                1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
                1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Philippines
                1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
                1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kwangtung
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Burma
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
                1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                2 cruisers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
                      Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
                1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Manchuria to 18 Sea Zone

    Combat - Japanese
                Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                    ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                    Japanese win, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
                Battle in Java
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
                Battle in Sumatra
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Sumatra from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
                Battle in Borneo
                Battle in Celebes
                Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 2 cruisers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 transport
                    Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Celebes from Dutch with 2 cruisers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Battle in Philippines
                    Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                    Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Battle in Malaya
                    Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                    British defend with 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Malaya from UK_Pacific with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                    Casualties for British: 3 infantry
                Battle in Burma
                    Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    British defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese win with 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Battle in Kwangtung
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    British defend with 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                    Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Battle in Szechwan
                    Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Battle in 18 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                    Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
                1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to Kweichow
                2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hopei
                2 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                2 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                1 aaGun moved from Chahar to Hopei
                1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
                1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 37 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 37 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to 37 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
                1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
                2 fighters moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Philippines to Kwangsi
                1 bomber moved from 18 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
                1 bomber moved from Malaya to Kwangsi
                1 fighter moved from 18 Sea Zone to Japan
                1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
                1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei

    Place Units - Japanese
                1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 67 PUs; end with 67 PUs total
                Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Changing PUs for Japanese from 72 to 54
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

  • 2024 '22 '19 '17 '15

    Hi guys. Another brutally executed game! Crazy Sea Lion. But Nerquen wouldnt go for it if it didnt promise victory.

    Wittmann: defend your homeland properly!  :-D sorry for trolling

    But nice to watch you gaming like that.

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