15L G40 Wittman (+21) v Gamerman01 (Axis)


  • @Gamerman01:

    I need you to declare what fighters are on what carriers in 54 before Japan’s turn, thanks

    Morning.
    I am hoping the two Anzac are on the same Carrier. Never occured to me that they might not be (but the AI can be funny).
    Wasn’t sure if you would Attack the Atlantic Carrier with the 3 Bombers, as it would have put them out of position. I think I would have done though. Was lucky to survive.
    Russia should be done before school in 90 mins, but depends on the children!


  • Sweet, I was starting to get chills because no games to play

    You can have both ANZ fighters on one carrier.  It doesn’t matter what the AI has them on, you can edit them.

    Iceland isn’t too bad a place for aircraft, even axis aircraft.


  • Yes, the carrier battle could have gone better for me, but it also could have gone better for you.  I’m lucky I got 2 hits in the first round.  Damaging the carrier was HUGE - you had a lot more options if it wasn’t damaged.


  • I’ll tell you something else, it’s pretty good that you even realized the bombers might come hit it.  A lot of players would have missed that, because Iceland isn’t usually in play for Germany.


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians
                1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
                1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
                1 fighter moved from Russia to Smolensk
                1 infantry moved from Vologda to Smolensk

    Combat - Russians
                Battle in Ukraine
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Smolensk
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 artillery
                    Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                1 aaGun and 11 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
                1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
                5 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
                1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Kansu
                1 aaGun moved from Timguska to Kansu
                1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
                1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
                1 artillery moved from Rostov to Tambov
                2 artilleries, 11 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Bryansk
                1 aaGun moved from Russia to Bryansk
                1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Bryansk

    Place Units - Russians
                2 artilleries, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs total
                Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs

    Territory Summary for Russians :

    Kansu : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
        Timguska : 1 infantry
        Olgiy : 1 flag
        Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
        Bryansk : 4 aaGuns, 2 armour, 9 artilleries, 2 fighters, 32 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
        Russia : 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
        Tambov : 1 artillery
        Ukraine : 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
        Novosibirsk : 1 aaGun and 11 infantry
        Vologda : 1 infantry
        Volgograd : 1 factory_minor
        Smolensk : 2 infantry
        Samara : 5 infantry
        Iraq : 1 flag
        Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        115 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 52 / 65
        Russians : 24 / 27
        Japanese : 67 / 73
        Americans : 52 / 72
        Chinese : 4 / 6
        British : 30 / 34
        UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
        Italians : 12 / 11
        ANZAC : 10 / 12
        French : 9 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 18 / 0


  • @Gamerman01:

    Sweet, I was starting to get chills because no games to play

    You can have both ANZ fighters on one carrier.  It doesn’t matter what the AI has them on, you can edit them.

    Iceland isn’t too bad a place for aircraft, even axis aircraft.

    I thought you might have reinforced it with an AA and Inf, but I suppose that was if a Bomber survived.
    Bloody annoying that I could not foresee your Sub preventing my Amphibious landing though. Got me there! I have TTs out of place now. I am really at 6s and 7s, because of you. Other games I have lost as the Allies, I have started much better. This will be the shortest defeat, I can assure you. I think the one I lost to Soul should have been prevented.
    I do admire the top players who can do the seeming impossible and win against a good Axis strategy. It is the over generous NOs that make it easier for the Axis. That and the 21 starting Air for japan.
    Glad I can give you a game to stave off the shakes. Enjoy breaking me down. And don’t stay up too long!


  • And I really am cool with you choosing the OOl, if I am asleep. You are good enough not to need to take advantage and probably can see what I see. Please do not hold up the game on my account.


  • @wittmann:

    And I really am cool with you choosing the OOl, if I am asleep. You are good enough not to need to take advantage and probably can see what I see. Please do not hold up the game on my account.

    Yeah, I’m taking away your chance to make a mistake when I choose your OOL  :-)


  • @wittmann:

    Bloody annoying that I could not foresee your Sub preventing my Amphibious landing though. Got me there!

    Technically, I’m pretty sure the damaged carrier counts as an escort and allows you to attack, but I figure that’s not a good move for you.

    It is the over generous NOs that make it easier for the Axis. That and the 21 starting Air for japan.

    Yes, and I think the major in Berlin as well as West Germany, or the Ukraine complex, you can blame them all.  Wouldn’t it be challenging if the Axis had a minor in West Germany?  Or at least take out the Ukraine complex.

    Glad I can give you a game to stave off the shakes. Enjoy breaking me down. And don’t stay up too long!

    I know, I stayed up way too late last night.  Had to calculate the avalanche in the rankings.  I don’t have to get up early in the morning though.


  • And it’s 21 aircraft AFTER Larry shaved about 5? planes from their starting set up.  Seriously, what was he thinking with 1st edition lol.  There was such a huge disparity between the Europe board strength and the Pacific it was completely laughable.  He shaved planes off the Allies in the Pacific also.


  • I bought the 1st edition too, so I do know.
    I realise I can use the CV for the US, thanks, but can’t afford to lose it, and it won’t help with the Uk.
    I am in a bit of a pickle.


  • Right, though I would certainly have liked to come away with a bomber or two, that hit on the carrier was big and I’m lucky I got it, after it was down to bomber vs. carrier


  • Yeah, I’m going to bed….

    You are definitely a respectable player, and not a pushover.  It looks like you have the Germans slowed down in Russia, if not pretty much stopped.  Although I haven’t been trying really hard to push through Russia, because I don’t think I need to, you’re doing several things well.

    This is not flattery or just trying to say nice things - I’m sincere


  • I also do not have a very strong front line with the Japs across Asia.  I almost never prioritize Egypt or India, so you have the bastions there that my opponents always do.  I prioritize fleet and air strength with Japan and Germany more than most

    You talk about folding quicker against me than you’re used to, but I can tell you, your position is pretty decent.  It is not unusual at all for me to accept a resignation between round 3 and 5, and there is no way you should even be thinking that way at this point, so keep up the good playing


  • Yeah, zone 8 is probably gonna hurt pretty bad, but I like the move of hoping for a hit from 2 infantry and losing the plane first.  It’s a veteran move, especially out in the middle of the Pacific - the dice just didn’t cooperate for you.  Though it’s still kind of nice to kill 2 infantry without any losses…


  • TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                COMMENT: 2 ANZ fighters on 1 USA carrier in 54
                Japanese buy 1 carrier, 3 destroyers, 3 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Japanese
                1 fighter moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Celebes to 42 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
                      Japanese take Yenisey from Russians
                1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
                      Japanese take Olgiy from Russians
                1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
                1 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Tsagaan Olom
                      Japanese take Tsagaan Olom from Russians
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Suiyuyan to Timguska
                1 fighter moved from Shan State to 42 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                3 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 8 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Amur to 5 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to India
                1 fighter moved from Shan State to 42 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 55 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 55 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Philippines to 44 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Philippines to 44 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Shan State to 55 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Shan State to India

    Combat - Japanese
                Air Battle in India
                    Japanese attacks with 2 units heading to India
                    Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
                Strategic bombing raid in India
                    1 tactical_bomber killed by AA
                    Bombing raid in India rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory_major
                    Bombing raid in India causes 6 damage total.
                Battle in 8 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                    Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                    Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                    Japanese win with 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 35
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Battle in Aleutian Islands
                    Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                    Americans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Japanese win, taking Aleutian Islands from Americans with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                    ANZAC defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese win, taking 44 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
                Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                    Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                    Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Battle in Timguska
                    Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Timguska to Suiyuyan
                1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
                1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
                1 artillery moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
                1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 armour moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to Philippines
                1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                1 bomber moved from India to Shan State
                1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
                1 mech_infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
                1 armour moved from Malaya to Shan State
                1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Shan State
                1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 battleship moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Shan State
                1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 mech_infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea

    Place Units - Japanese
                2 destroyers placed in 37 Sea Zone
                1 mech_infantry placed in Malaya
                1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
                3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Japanese collect 68 PUs; end with 68 PUs total
                Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs


  • OK, I think they improved the Triple A handling of SBR a bit, but it’s still not right.  It rolled both AA together in India even though I was trying to bomb 2 different facilities.

    The first die was a 1, which I would normally think of as the tactical bomber - weakest to strongest, so I removed it.  If you take issue with that, we can roll a die to determine which aircraft was shot down.


  • No, is fine thanks.
    I see I have Nips a plenty in my backyard. Ouch!
    Goodnight.


  • Nice guys finish last  :lol:


  • TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 5

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 3 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Americans
                2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
                2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 1 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Western United States to 8 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 25 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 49 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Queensland to 33 Sea Zone
                1 cruiser moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone

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