G40 Redesign (currently taking suggestions)

@hengst

No thank you, thanks for the invite though! I’m very busy and your rules seem to take a while to learn (no offence), but I hope you find someone.

Hello everyone!
This is just a fun little scenario I created in my spare time, when a) I don’t have 1914 and b) I wanted the scale to be bigger. So without further ado, I give you my G40 Russian Civil War.
I will post the setup shortly for those who are interested in giving this whirl. Of course, let me know what could change to make this scenario a little smoother. Feedback is always welcome!

G40 Russian Civil War

Turn Order:
Bolsheviks (1940 Russian pieces)
White Army (1914 Russian pieces with 1940 Italian mech infantry OR 1940 Italian pieces)
Separatists (1914 OR 1940 German pieces)

Winning the Game:
The game will last until either Russian faction wins by controlling of Russian territories. The Separatists win if at the end of 10 rounds none of their territories are occupied by the Bolsheviks. If this does not occur, then the Separatists become a strict neutral power, and all original Separatist territories cannot be entered. All Separatist units on the board are also removed.

British Karelia:
As part of the Allied intervention during the civil, Britain had deployed troops to occupy Murmansk before withdrawing them in October of 1919.
The territory Karelia is a British minor power controlled by the White Army player, with a starting setup of 4 infantry and 2 artillery. White Army units may move into and through Karelia. British units may move into and through White Army territories as well as invade Bolshevik territories. To receive reinforcements, British Karelia may roll one die and add, in any combination-
1 infantry per dot
2 mechanized infantry per 2 dots
1 artillery per 3 dots
At the end of the third round of the game, British Karelia, along with any territory occupied by British forces becomes a White Army territory. Remove all British units on the board. In their place, place 2 White Army infantry each territory formally owned by British Karelia.

The Separatists:
The Separatist are made up of countries formerly part of the Russian Empire and are at war with the Bolsheviks.
Separatist units cannot move outside of Separatist territories unless invading and capturing a Bolshevik territory. If the Separatist go strict neutral, territories captured by them are up for grabs for whoever moves into them first. The Separatists do not require factories to build units.

Czechoslovak Legions:
The Czechoslovakian Legions had been part of the Russian Army, and during the civil war were allowed to leave to France. However, they ended up dispersed along the Trans-Siberian, and the Bolsheviks set out to disarm and arrest them.
Czechoslovakian Legion infantry are controlled by the White Army player and are able to move unlimited spaces through the territories of Russia, Samara, Novosibirsk, Timguska, Yenisey, Yakut, Buryatia, and Amur. These territories do not need to be controlled by the White Army. If it is hostile controlled, however, combat begins. Outside of those territories, Czechoslovak Legion infantry can only move 1 space. The Czechoslovak Legions cannot be rebuilt.

Unit Restrictions:
Only infantry, mechanized infantry, and artillery can be built in this game.

Unit Stats:
Infantry- Attack @ 2 Defend @ 2 Move @ 1 Cost 3
Mechanized Infantry- Attack @ 2 Defend @ 1 Move @ 2 Cost 4
Artillery- Attack @ 3 Defend @ 3 Move @ 1 (2 when paired with Mechanized Infantry) Cost @ 5

1940 combat rules, not the 1914 combat rules.

Hi Manstein,

Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing:+1:

@rommel13579
I also don’t use my mechs to attack.

I edited the Tacs in list.
Is there still a bid ?
BB & CR shore shot at 11 and 9 ?
How many table top games have you played ?

Issue is that if you’re going for historical set up, you need three access points of Lend Lease for USSR with Far East being the least amount and taking in only non combat equipment which I know is impossible to do for AnA so I say the Lend Lease point has to generate income no larger than 2.

Technically USSR was only moving factories and that was because it was easy to use farming factories to produce tanks, go figure.

But how would you know how many IPC Ottomans would have if you didn’t do any study on the economic capabilities of the other nations relating to 31 IPC? How would you know how many infantry they would have in each area if you didn’t study where they even had armies in 1914?

You need to just draw a map with territory borders that allows good player options and is realistic. Don’t redo 1914, that’s garbage. This is redesign, not use what you got

This is not checkers my friend.

I will summarize 3 ways of doing G40 SBR with Fgs escort and interceptor which could be use as 3 different historical tactics by the attacker trying to whether reduce the enemy’s air power or the IC production while better protecting StBs.

First, is A) the Close-Escort Mission, which is done as OOB SBR.

Second, is B) the Offensive Counter-Air Mission, which gives Fgs A1 first strike and D1 but an opportunity to roll a second time against bombers in A-to-A dogfight.

Third, is C) the Night Bombing Mission, in which Fgs units cannot participate neither offense nor defense.

A) Close-Escort Mission, as OOB
Air-to-Air phase
All attacking planes (Fg,TcB, StB) inside roll A@1.
All defending Fgs roll D@1.
Remove casualties.

Bombing phase
Proceed to SBR over IC, NB or AB.
AAA fires @1 against StB and TcB
Then roll damage as OOB: StB D6+2, TcB D6.

B) the Offensive Counter-Air Mission, Fgs are actively chasing intercepting Fgs
Air-to-Air phase
First cycle:
All attacking Fgs can roll A@1. Remove casualties.
All other attacking planes (TcBs, StBs) roll A@1.
All defending Fgs roll D@1.
Remove casualties.

Second cycle:
Then, defending Fgs roll D@1 a second time inside the A-to-A phase.
And all hits in this second cycle are allocated first to bombers, if any. Remove casualties.
All surviving attacking Fgs can now roll A@1 in this second cycle. Remove casualties.

Bombing phase
Proceed to SBR over IC, NB or AB.
AAA fires @1 against StB and TcB
Then roll damage as OOB: StB D6+2, TcB D6.

C) the Night Bombing Mission

Night Bombing phase
Proceed directly to SBR over IC, NB or AB.

AAA fires @1/D12 against StB and TcB or
@Baron:

“Historical” light projector “search and spot” in the night sky:
Each StB/TcB is spotted on a 3 or less.

Then roll to A@1 on spotted StB with AA gun: on “1” roll a spotted StB/TcB is destroyed.
(Work as the usual in-built AAA in IC.)

All surviving StBs bombard roll for damage: (1D6+2)/2 rounded down against IC.

All surviving TcBs bombard roll for damage (1D6)/2 rounded down, minimum 1 IPC, against IC.

@Baron:

Trying to depict the two escorting fighters tactics with an additional HR inside the actual G40 OOB SBR escort and interception rules, I come to this:
It would be an attacker’s choice whether he chooses the close-escort mission or an Offensive Counter-Air mission.

Close-escort mission:
When playing as OOB SBR (all @1), it is like Fgs are providing close-escort to bombers.

Offensive Counter-Air mission version A:
Air-to-Air combat phase in SBR with Fgs actively chasing intercepting Fgs :
All attacking Fgs can roll A@1. Remove casualties.
All other planes (TcBs, StBs and defending Fgs) roll A/D @1. Remove casualties.
Then, defending Fgs roll D@1 a second cycle inside the A-to-A phase.
And all hits in this second cycle are allocated to bombers. Remove casualties.

Proceed to SBR over IC, NB or AB.
AAA fires against StB and TcB.
Then roll damage as OOB.

I think it is a way to simulate the two tactics at a Strategical level game.
It can give a better historical feel and variation of attacking SBR strategy, at least on this point, than just the actual OOB.
Attacking Fighters get a preemptive strike, and any hit is also a way of protecting bombers,
while defending Fgs get special treatment on the second cycle: a second chance to make a hit @1 on bombers specifically.

In addition, maybe the comparison can provide us a way to explain why Fgs are not better than bombers and stay A/D @1:

the escorts are restricted in their role, they have limited ability to score hits, however, by staying close to the bombers they make it more likely that they will be taken as a casualty, the losing player gets to decide their losses.

If on the other hand, the escorts are allowed to pursue interceptors, they are more effective at shooting them down, but in that case, they are not as effective at protecting the bombers, therefore, the interceptors get to choose their hits.

On one part, we can say that for escorting Fgs providing cover impaired all of them, moving at a slower pace and keeping an eye on bombers.
On the other part, defending interceptors are also somewhat impaired by the defensive formation of Bombers and Fgs, so they didn’t get any advantage of the “flying over homeland territory” would normally provide against less manoeuvrable target.
So, after all, Fgs get A1D1 while the rest of TcBs and StBs just getting A1 but D0.
(And based upon IPC cost, it is just enough to say a Fg unit is slightly better than the rest.)

In summary, about Offensive Counter-Air mission :
The first cycle is a regular for defending planes, because they have to scramble and can be caught off guard by attacking Fgs. They get the superiority once in the air.

The first cycle of SBR interception phase is as OOB, except for attacking Fgs.
The second cycle is for surviving defending Fgs which get an advantage since there is no close-escort Fgs for Bombers.

In addition, this can provide a distinctive ability toward Fgs vs TcBs.

This HR was only a way to depict in game term this historical tactics, but if there is already a way to rationalize it inside OOB rules, feel free to develop it, so it can add a layer of historical depiction and feeling toward Fighter unit.

EDIT:
Here is another way of depicting this Offensive Counter Air-Mission version B:

What could happened historically?
A typical example from the Battle of Britain:
A flight of Ju88, He111 and Do17 Bombers sent in to bomb British ABs with a group of 109’s in support.
A group of Spitfires and Hurricanes comes up to intercept.
The 109s jump the interceptors.
The interceptors try to blow by the escorts and get at the bombers.

Escorts are flying in ahead of the Bombers and meet the interceptors before the wing of Bombers.

Escorts and Interceptors fight one round.
Escorts and interceptors roll on A/D@1. Remove casualties.
Then, escorting and intercepting Fgs and Bombers all roll on A/D@1. Remove casualties, but Bombers are taken as casualties.
Then, AAA fire, remove casualties.
Proceed to bombing damage.