Global 1940 Wittman and Private Panic vs Credulous and Elrood

Here… is that enough spirit of adventure for you?!  :evil:

:lol:

Ans also… Cred… you need bloody Carriers! These will win us the War…

Not a bunch of show planes!  :roll:

tipp: If the US would have landed in Marokko… it would have meant:

• French unit for Allies (now it will get converted to Axis Neutral in French turn)
• 6 IPCs more for US (1 for Marocco and 5 for the US objective)

Just saying…  8-)

@Credulous:

And there will of course be carriers. Lots of them.

Now you are talking!  :-D

I am sorry - am I on the wrong page - is this your private lovers page or are Leo and I also allowed to post here?  :?

You certainly seem to have frightened him off this morning!  :roll:

It is Maddy’s 7th birthday. Had a house full of people, now just 8. Lunch and work. Hope yo do Italy, before 5, but might be considered grounds for divorce!

War cannot be won without sacrifices!  :evil:

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Syria: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 artillery moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Italians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Italians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

British Somaliland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kenya : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 factory_major, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Ethiopia : 1 infantry
    96 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Greece : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 39 / 68
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 33 / 41
    Americans : 52 / 80
    Chinese : 10 / 13
    British : 26 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 14 / 16
    Italians : 16 / 16
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 11 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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Are you still married Leo?

I hope that Maddy had a wonderful day and there were no hissy-fits from any of the little terrors?

Maddy has been so good today. Has been a pleasure spending the day with her.
She is completing the Friends Amusement Park Lego set.
I am tired; I think because I have a rotten cold.

Italy had a good turn . I do have Seb’s blasted Battkeship off Gib though . Silly man. Why bring it in my Sea!

I really cannot see the merits to a J1 DOW. Looks like arse, to me.

Perhaps. The next couple of turns will tell us for sure. Here are some current thoughts for debate though:

Pros

• minimise UK Pacific income sooner
• take out UK BB
• take out US DD, sub and (if Philippines - where I had 81% odds with just the one TT - successful) Fig
• J loses 10 ipc income, but gains conquest income sooner - or at least that is the plan!

Cons

• US enters war against G & It, so they need to be happy
• US gains significant NO income earlier
• Not doing the alternative of perhaps using J1, 2 & poss 3 to go at R and accept the Mongolian defense pact implications.

What else?

If I had taken Philippines would you feel the same way?

I am currently leaning towards trying a J1, 2 & poss 3 go at R next time instead. It always feels daft not to target R because of a measly 6 Mongolian inf.

I think axis in BM should both early DoW… else the IPC advantage will be too big because of all the additional NOs for allies

So I would be interesting in hearing Leo’s thoughts against a J1 DoW?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 10 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Vichy France Has Occurred: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_Territory_May_Turn_Vichy_Switch attached to French

Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 111 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium
            6 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
            1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 111 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to Western Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber placed in Western Germany
            10 artilleries placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
    Romania : 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry
    Poland : 3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 12 infantry
    Germany : 6 armour, 10 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Holland Belgium : 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
    Southern Italy : 1 fighter
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 submarine
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    109 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 2 submarines
    Finland : 1 flag, 9 infantry
    110 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 39 / 49
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 33 / 41
    Americans : 52 / 80
    Chinese : 10 / 13
    British : 26 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 14 / 16
    Italians : 16 / 16
    ANZAC : 10 / 22
    French : 2 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 11 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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@Private:

So I would be interesting in hearing Leo’s thoughts against a J1 DoW?

All the reasons you gave, actually.
I want to be in position and be in control of the Allies’ NOs; I think I can do that by delaying. I have always liked making those pesky Americans, with their largesse of  income, waiting.

Let’s see what happens then Leo - for me the jury is still out