XDAP2 R3 - Declaration of WEAK vs Team GARL (Allies +20)

thanks for the update. Hope we will see you back here soon and too bad we do not see the outcome of that game with the initial team.
I am indeed curious if you would have played Russia and UK the same way?

Would you have made a stand in Russia? If so, would you have made a full stand with ALL available UK air? Would you have slammed UK ground units + shore bombardment into Ukraine to weaken the attack at Russia?

That was Garg’s original thought…. he he he… but he thought differently…  :wink:

Nonetheless, the Allies are on the ropes here.  Let’s just see if they get lucky!  (Probably not).

I would consider the dice very lucky for the Allies.

70 TUV below expected. I guess was was bottom 20% or so.

@JDOW:

I would consider the dice very lucky for the Allies.

70 TUV below expected. I guess was was bottom 20% or so.

wow!  Ha. Garg and I ran the numbers and saw it was futile to go all in.  So, we thought just a token resistance was best. Maybe we should have gone in after all…. :-P

map?  Are there even any Russian units left?

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 8 infantry and 10 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone
            8 armour, 4 fighters and 14 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Russia
            2 bombers, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Russia
            1 bomber moved from Chahar to Russia
            5 bombers moved from Western Germany to Russia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
                  Germans take Tambov from Russians
            10 armour, 11 artilleries, 1 fighter, 5 infantry, 20 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Bryansk to Russia

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 8 bombers, 7 fighters, 5 infantry, 34 mech_infantrys and 6 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers; French defend with 1 fighter; ANZAC defend with 3 fighters and 2 infantry; Russians defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                    AA fire in Russia :  3/9 hits
                    2 bombers owned by the Germans and 1 fighter owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 6 bombers, 6 fighters, 5 infantry, 34 mech_infantrys and 6 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 :  30/86 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 13 fighters, 37 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 2 :  32/65 hits
                    25 infantry owned by the Russians, 27 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 3 aaGuns owned by the Russians, 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 5 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 11 artilleries, 6 bombers, 6 fighters, 7 mech_infantrys and 6 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 :  27/54 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 13 fighters, 10 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 3 :  18/38 hits
                    10 infantry owned by the Russians, 7 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans, 2 tactical_bombers owned by the British, 6 artilleries owned by the Russians, 4 armour owned by the Russians, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians, 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians, 11 artilleries owned by the Germans and 2 fighters owned by the ANZAC lost in Russia
                    Germans roll dice for 18 armour, 6 bombers, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers in Russia, round 4 :  21/36 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 11 fighters in Russia, round 4 :  8/11 hits
                    3 fighters owned by the Russians, 1 fighter owned by the French, 6 fighters owned by the British, 1 fighter owned by the ANZAC and 8 armour owned by the Germans lost in Russia
                Germans captures 14PUs while taking Russians capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 10 armour, 6 bombers, 6 fighters and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 68
                Casualties for Germans: 8 armour, 11 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 34 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for British: 6 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for French: 1 fighter
                Casualties for ANZAC: 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 aaGuns, 4 armour, 6 artilleries, 3 fighters, 35 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in 123 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 123 Sea Zone
                    Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 123 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 fighters moved from Russia to Ukraine
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
            2 bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 113 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            4 bombers moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 fighters moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to France

Place Units - Germans
            2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in France
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            5 infantry placed in Western Germany
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 56 PUs; end with 70 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 85 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Kazakhstan
            2 artilleries moved from Kazakhstan to Samara

Turn Complete - Russians

@Karl7:

@JDOW:

I would consider the dice very lucky for the Allies.

70 TUV below expected. I guess was was bottom 20% or so.

wow!  Ha. Garg and I ran the numbers and saw it was futile to go all in.  So, we thought just a token resistance was best. Maybe we should have gone in after all…. :-P

Yes. With the given result a full stand with all Fighters could have been fatal for the Germans. Glad the Brits are such nits :PPPPPPP

@JDOW:

@Karl7:

@JDOW:

I would consider the dice very lucky for the Allies.

70 TUV below expected. I guess was was bottom 20% or so.

wow!  Ha. Garg and I ran the numbers and saw it was futile to go all in.  So, we thought just a token resistance was best. Maybe we should have gone in after all…. :-P

ha, well it would have been only 3 more ftrs anyway…. not enough to win.  Besides that extra fire power would have pushed the dice so the Allies would have rolled terribly… such is the moodiness of the MARTI God

Yes. With the given result a full stand with all Fighters could have been fatal for the Germans. Glad the Brits are such nits :PPPPPPP

You could brought all 5 figs + bomber in. those at Egypt were on the US carrier which could have brought them closer. What you actually did.

jdow and karl - are either of you able to help me figure out where we currently are at in this tourney?  updated brackets and results in the pits?  i’m insanely busy right now.

Sorry Bold. This was another reason I refused to take over. I would need to start from scratch to see where we are and where all infos and rules are located.

So I am not of any help in this matter :-(

@JDOW:

You could brought all 5 figs + bomber in. those at Egypt were on the US carrier which could have brought them closer. What you actually did.

Well, so it goes. As I say, the battle calc gave you a very decisive victory even with all in.  So, things turned out better than if we had gone all in I guess given you can never count on the dice helping you.

Bold, I have no idea where the tourney stands.  I can ask Garg.

what the what here?

I am on my own now, so… Wheat’s move?

Wheat was buys the recent days. Move coming soon.

Karl, would you be opposed to JDOW doing this Japanese turn (if he’s willing) … that would be fastest.

We discussed the map already, we just had no time to fine tune it together.

So I will just proceed for this turn to keep this going.

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 1 infantry, 6 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kazakhstan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Kazakhstan
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Kazakhstan
            2 bombers moved from Szechwan to Bessarabia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
            1 armour moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Shensi to Novosibirsk
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Shensi to Kazakhstan
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Evenkiyskiy
                  Japanese take Evenkiyskiy from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
                  Japanese take Timguska from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
                  Japanese take Olgiy from Russians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            7 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon
            1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
                  Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 1 infantry, 6 mech_infantrys, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kazakhstan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Kazakhstan
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Szechwan to Kazakhstan
            2 bombers moved from Szechwan to Bessarabia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
            1 armour moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Shensi to Novosibirsk
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Novosibirsk
            1 bomber moved from Shensi to Kazakhstan
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Evenkiyskiy
                  Japanese take Evenkiyskiy from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
                  Japanese take Timguska from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
                  Japanese take Olgiy from Russians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            7 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon
            1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
                  Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 2 Sea Zone to Alaska
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 6 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Ceylon
            Battle in Alaska
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win, taking Ceylon from UK_Pacific, taking Alaska from Americans with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 8 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 7 artilleries and 14 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Japanese captures 2PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
                Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 7 artilleries and 13 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Kazakhstan
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novosibirsk
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 bombers moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to Russia
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Kazakhstan to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Kazakhstan to Russia
            1 bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
            1 aaGun moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
            1 mech_infantry moved from Chahar to Kansu
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Manchuria to Chahar
            1 aaGun moved from Manchuria to Korea
            1 submarine moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 39 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 artillery moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 battleships, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Japan to 35 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Burma
            3 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 3 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 38 Sea Zone to Burma
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Shan State

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Japan
            1 harbour placed in Burma
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Japan
            3 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 81 PUs; end with 83 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Holland Belgium
                  Americans take Holland Belgium from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Spain to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
            2 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from British Columbia to 2 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from British Columbia to 8 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 8 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                Americans win with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in 2 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                Americans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Southern France
                Americans attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                Americans win, taking Southern France from Italians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Java
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win, taking Java from Japanese with 1 bomber and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 3 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 cruiser
                Americans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 cruiser
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to 91 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Spain to Normandy Bordeaux
            6 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain
            1 fighter moved from 2 Sea Zone to Aleutian Islands
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from 8 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from 16 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
            1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport moved from 100 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            3 armour placed in Normandy Bordeaux
            2 armour and 1 artillery placed in Spain
            1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 63 PUs; end with 63 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 78 PUs

blah, you guys are toying with me.

This game is OVER!  Ha… I think it’s been over for awhile actually.  Keeping India offensive which was an error here.  Turtle was the way to go.  Also invading the neutrals I don’t think helped us in the end.

GG