XDAP2 R3 - Declaration of WEAK vs Team GARL (Allies +20)

@Gargantua:

Interesting turn of events lol.

For future reference, transport off of Java can’t be “half” unloaded in combat.  That is forbidden!  An amphibious landing must unload all of it’s cargo, unless said cargo has an AAA.

Hey Garg,
Wheats move was correct.

The units were loaded during NCM of the last turn. In this case it is legal to unload single units from the TT.
The rule you are referring to applies for units loaded during combat move phase. In this case all units must be unloaded to the same territory.

However, Wheats move was 100% within the rules.

@Gargantua:

Interesting turn of events lol.

For future reference, transport off of Java can’t be “half” unloaded in combat.  That is forbidden!  An amphibious landing must unload all of it’s cargo, unless said cargo has an AAA.

From the 2nd ed. rulebook, transport unit description, page 33:
“During an amphibious assault, a transport must either offload all units that were loaded during the Combat Move phase or retreat during sea combat.”

Any unit that was loaded during a previous turn’s NCM has the option to stay aboard.

@wheatbeer:

@Gargantua:

Interesting turn of events lol.

For future reference, transport off of Java can’t be “half” unloaded in combat.  That is forbidden!  An amphibious landing must unload all of it’s cargo, unless said cargo has an AAA.

From the 2nd ed. rulebook, transport unit description, page 33:
“During an amphibious assault, a transport must either offload all units that were loaded during the Combat Move phase or retreat during sea combat.”

Any unit that was loaded during a previous turn’s NCM has the option to stay aboard.

huh, interesting. I’ve played this game since the 1980s and I always thought offloading was completely discretionary. I guess not. Not that it’s mattered much.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Politics - Italians
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Chile
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Argentina
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Venezuela
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Sweden
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Switzerland
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Spain
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Portugal
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Turkey
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Saudi Arabia
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Afghanistan
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Mozambique
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Angola

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern France

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Italians win, taking Southern France from British with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Switzerland
                  Italians take Switzerland from Neutral_True

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy
            1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3
            Italians collect 12 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 13 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Politics - Italians
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Chile
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Argentina
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Venezuela
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Sweden
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Switzerland
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Spain
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Portugal
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Turkey
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Saudi Arabia
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Afghanistan
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Mozambique
            Trigger Italians Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Angola

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern France

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                Italians win, taking Southern France from British with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Yugoslavia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Bulgaria
            1 aaGun moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Switzerland
                  Italians take Switzerland from Neutral_True

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy
            1 destroyer placed in 97 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,3
            Italians collect 12 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 13 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Yugoslavia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Bulgaria: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Celebes

Non Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Celebes

Non Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Cyprus
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Politics - Germans
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Chile
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Argentina
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Venezuela
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Sweden
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Switzerland
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Spain
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Portugal
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Turkey
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Saudi Arabia
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Afghanistan
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Mozambique
            Trigger Germans Friendly With TrueNeutrals: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Germans:Italians:Japanese for territoryAttatchment attached to Angola

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 armour, 2 infantry and 12 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 95 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            5 armour, 11 artilleries and 14 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to 99 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Smolensk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Bryansk
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Belarus

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 95 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 99 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 fighter; Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 5 armour, 11 artilleries and 14 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 5 armour, 11 artilleries and 13 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 2 artilleries
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries
            Battle in Smolensk
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bessarabia to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Sweden
                  Germans take Sweden from Neutral_True
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            3 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Bulgaria
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Bulgaria
            2 armour and 6 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 bomber moved from Smolensk to Romania
            1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
            7 mech_infantrys moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Belarus to Western Ukraine
            6 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia

Place Units - Germans
            1 infantry placed in France
            1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            6 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Romania: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Bulgaria: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Garg, one little note: I recommend to deactivate the dice statistics when posting in general. I think they don’t provide any relevant information at all, just ballast.

NEUTRAL CRUSH!!!  A GARL after my own heart.

this one appears to be a foregone conclusion - guess i know our next victims in the pits.  what happened - has this been a case of cowdice?

@Boldfresh:

this one appears to be a foregone conclusion - guess i know our next victims in the pits.  what happened - has this been a case of cowdice?

Silence!