G40 Gauss_Death (Allies +13) vs oysteilo (Axis)

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 2 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 1 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 1 Sea Zone to Alaska
            4 armour, 4 artilleries, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Finland
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 23 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            3 bombers moved from Norway to Germany
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines

Combat - Americans
            Strategic bombing raid in Germany
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in Germany rolls: 5,3 and causes: 8 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in Germany causes 8 damage total.
            Battle in 22 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 4 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                retreated to 22 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Philippines
            Battle in Finland
                Americans attack with 4 armour, 4 artilleries, 6 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 3 infantry
                Americans win, taking Philippines from Japanese, taking Finland from Germans with 4 armour, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in 23 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 4 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 4 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Alaska
                Americans attack with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 2 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                Americans win, taking 2 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 5 fighters and 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 5 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            4 fighters moved from 22 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            4 fighters moved from 23 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to Western United States
            1 destroyer and 5 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from India to Queensland
            2 bombers moved from Germany to Norway
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Finland to Russia
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
            5 transports moved from 123 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States
            2 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Norway
            2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 65 PUs; end with 66 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 86 PUs

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 4 PUs total

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 13

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            5 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Norway to Karelia
                  Russians take Karelia from Germans
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - British
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
            Battle in Caucasus
                British attack with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans, taking Caucasus from Germans with 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            5 fighters moved from Caucasus to Russia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Russia
            5 fighters moved from Norway to Russia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
            8 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            10 artilleries moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            7 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            4 armour moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            1 artillery moved from India to West India
            2 artilleries moved from India to West India
            3 aaGuns moved from India to West India
            31 infantry moved from India to West India
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            3 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 98 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            4 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Norway

Place Units - British
            1 carrier placed in 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Persia
            2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

@Gauss_Death:

Your transport (and infantry) have been sunk. I have corrected the production (loss of 7 since you didn’t capture the Philippines), units (loss of the transport and infantry), and territory ownership.

I didn’t see a way to subtract 3 kamikaze counters. I am down to 3.

OK

Why am I not asked for kamikaze when doing the assault? It annoys me. But according to the rules you are right

@oysteilo:

@Gauss_Death:

Your transport (and infantry) have been sunk. I have corrected the production (loss of 7 since you didn’t capture the Philippines), units (loss of the transport and infantry), and territory ownership.

I didn’t see a way to subtract 3 kamikaze counters. I am down to 3.

OK

Why am I not asked for kamikaze when doing the assault? It annoys me. But according to the rules you are right

From page 16 in the pacific rulebook:

The Japanese player has the ability to make
a special defensive strike against Allied
surface warships. Japan is allowed to make
6 kamikaze strikes during the game. These
strikes can be made only in sea zones that
contain the Kamikaze symbol: those surrounding Japan,
Okinawa, Iwo Jima, Formosa, Marianas, and Philippines.
If an Allied player attacks Japanese units in or declares an
amphibious assault from one of these sea zones, the Japanese
player can announce at the beginning of this phase that he or
she intends to launch one or more kamikaze strikes in that sea
zone. They are resolved before any combat begins.
The Japanese player must declare how many kamikaze
strikes will be made, in which sea zone(s) they will
be used, and which enemy ship will be struck by each
kamikaze before any dice are rolled. For each declared
strike, 1 Kamikaze token must be spent (no actual air unit
is involved) and will be removed from the game after the
strike is resolved. A kamikaze strike can target any specific
enemy surface warship (not a submarine or transport)
belonging to the attacking power. More than one kamikaze
strike can be made against the same ship. Kamikaze strikes
hit on an attack roll of 2 or less. If a hit is scored, it must
be applied to the chosen unit. Surface warships that are
destroyed by a kamikaze strike (capital ships still take 2
hits) are immediately removed and will not participate in
the subsequent battle. A kamikaze strike prevents offshore
bombardment supporting an amphibious assault in that
sea zone, whether or not the strike is successful (place the
used Kamikaze token in the sea zone until you resolve the
amphibious assault to remind you that the ships may not
bombard).

The way I read this is that in this situation you can not declare kamikaze, because there are no warships in the sz AND I am not attacking any Japanese units. If you had an inf in the Phil I think you could declare on the transports.

@Gauss_Death:

Dang, I missed the part about the transport. Ok.

I will reverse all that on my next turn.

I dont know, maybe you are right after all…… I will post to the forum and see what people say

@Gauss_Death:

No, it is pretty clear. I cannot target your transports with kamikaze attacks. I made an error, I didn’t realize transports were not subject to kamikaze attacks.

but in the first paragraph it says something about an amphious assult. what I am doing is not an amphibious assult?

@Gauss_Death:

Ok so it is two parts:
Part 1, when you can do it: if the enemy (you) are attacking Japanese ships and/or conduct an amphibious assault on a japanese territory.
You were conducting an amphibious assault. So this part is satisfied.

Part 2, what can be targeted: surface warships but not submarines or transports.
I cannot target your transport. (Note: if you had a cruiser or battleship taking part in the amphibious assault I could have targeted them. Targeting a Destroyer not taking part in an amphibious assault is doubtful.)

Part 2 was my error, I cannot target your transport even though you were conducting an amphibious assault.

OK so if I had a cruiser there and was doing an amphibiois assult you could target both the cruiser and the transport?

@Gauss_Death:

No, if you are conducting an amphibious assault with a cruiser and transport I could target the cruiser but not the transport.

The transport can never be targeted by kamikaze attacks under any circumstances. It’s a strange rule but it is the rule.

Why is amphibious assult mentioned in the first red paragraph then.