Redrum's and P@nther's battle thread

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Chinese builds 2 units.

Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to 62 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 62 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber
                Japanese defend with 2 transports
                    2 transports owned by the Japanese lost in 62 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 transports

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from 62 Sea Zone to Stanovoj Chrebet
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 44 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 56 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 56 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Panama
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 8 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Eastern Canada
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Eastern Canada
            1 fighter moved from 44 Sea Zone to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Alaska to Western Canada

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Hupeh to Kiangsu
                  Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Sikang
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Sikang

Place Units - Americans
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Ningxia
            1 infantry placed in Sikang

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 40 PUs; end with 40 PUs total
            Objective 2: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs
            Objective 3: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs
            Objective 4: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs

Alright thanks for the explanation and that’s sort of what I had figured. Japan’s first turn is definitely interesting as there are just so many options. You definitely are in a strong position and have a lot of units in position to strike India, Australia, and China in J2. The value of the move to take New Guinea is probably debatable but your explanation makes sense. You could probably argue that moving the transport somewhere else provides more opportunity for J2 as its one more transport you’d have to attack something and just not getting the NO on J1. There is definitely additional value of currently having units vs having PUs to buy them later.

Alright. Also I assume that leaving the transports outside Japan was just an oversight. Though it does make Russia give up its NO.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 6 armour and 1 artillery; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to 38 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Baltic States
            2 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Manchuria

Combat - Russians
            Battle in 38 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 38 Sea Zone
                Russians win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport
            Battle in Manchuria
                Russians attack with 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria
                Japanese win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Norway
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Norway
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Norway, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Norway
                Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 11 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 2 artilleries and 11 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 :  4/13 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 2 artilleries and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Baltic States
                Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 aaGun moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to Eastern Ukraine
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Finland
            1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to Australia
            1 infantry moved from Urals to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Urals
            4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Evenki National Okrug
            1 infantry moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Buryatia S.S.R.
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            4 armour placed in Caucasus
            1 armour and 1 artillery placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            1 armour placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 9 times
            2 was rolled 4 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 2.920
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : 1.292
        Standard Deviation : 1.137
        Total rolls : 25

Germans Combat
            1 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : 3.333
        Standard Deviation : 1.826
        Total rolls : 4

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 5 times
            2 was rolled 4 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 3 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
            6 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.200
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 0.316
        Standard Deviation : 0.562
        Total rolls : 20

Japanese Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 1.000
        Median : 1.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Rough turn for the Russians. Lots of opportunity but just unable to seize it! Axis just wouldn’t cede and rolled 4 1’s out of 5 rolls! Should be an interesting J2 with lots of options and some tough decisions to make.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 infantry moved from Persia to India
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to India
            1 transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 3 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 3 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 armour moved from United Kingdom to 8 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 9 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Canada to 9 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 9 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria
            1 fighter moved from 8 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 8 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 2 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 8 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria

Combat - British
            Battle in Norway
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Norway, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Norway
                British win, taking Norway from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in India
                British attack with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 armour and 2 infantry in India, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in India, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in India
                British win, taking India from Japanese with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Morocco Algeria
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 battleship in Morocco Algeria, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Morocco Algeria, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco Algeria, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Morocco Algeria, round 3 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Morocco Algeria, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Morocco Algeria
                British win, taking Morocco Algeria from Germans with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Morocco Algeria to 12 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 3 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Persia
            1 artillery moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Italian Africa
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 22 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 1 transport placed in 3 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in 3 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 4 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
            6 was rolled 5 times
        Average roll : 3.765
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.188
        Standard Deviation : 1.090
        Total rolls : 17

Germans Combat
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.667
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 1.500
        Standard Deviation : 1.225
        Total rolls : 3

British Combat
            1 was rolled 3 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            3 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 3 times
            6 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.846
        Median : 5.000
        Variance : 0.917
        Standard Deviation : 0.957
        Total rolls : 13

Japanese Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.000
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Chinese builds 1 units.

Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters moved from Eastern Canada to 13 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 13 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 8 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 8 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 8 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 12 Sea Zone to Morocco Algeria

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 13 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Italians defend with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport
                    Americans roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 4 fighters in 13 Sea Zone, round 2 :  4/6 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport in 13 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    1 battleship owned by the Italians, 1 bomber owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Americans, 2 cruisers owned by the Italians and 1 fighter owned by the Americans lost in 13 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 13 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 transport
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Battle in Morocco Algeria
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry in Morocco Algeria, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Morocco Algeria, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Morocco Algeria
                Americans win, taking Morocco Algeria from Germans with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            3 fighters moved from 13 Sea Zone to 12 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Panama to 20 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 2 destroyers moved from 20 Sea Zone to 18 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 10 Sea Zone to Eastern United States
            1 bomber moved from Stanovoj Chrebet to Eastern Canada
            1 infantry moved from Western Canada to Eastern Canada
            1 aaGun moved from Eastern United States to Eastern Canada

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 2 infantry moved from Sikang to Chinghai
            1 infantry moved from Ningxia to Chinghai

Place Units - Americans
            3 transports placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 5 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Ningxia

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 39 PUs; end with 39 PUs total
            Objective 3: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs
            Objective 4: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 8 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 3.529
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 2.812
        Standard Deviation : 1.677
        Total rolls : 17

Germans Combat
            3 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4.500
        Median : 4.500
        Variance : 2.000
        Standard Deviation : 1.414
        Total rolls : 2

Italians Combat
            3 was rolled 3 times
        Average roll : 3.000
        Median : 3.000
        Variance : 4.500
        Standard Deviation : 2.121
        Total rolls : 3

Americans Combat
            1 was rolled 2 times
            3 was rolled 4 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            5 was rolled 4 times
        Average roll : 3.500
        Median : 3.500
        Variance : 1.455
        Standard Deviation : 1.206
        Total rolls : 12

Interesting choice to move Italy’s entire navy to the coast of Morocco and take Morocco back. Got Italy lots of PUs by grabbing the NO but at the cost of its navy. It did put up a heck of a defense against the US airforce by rolling 3 out of 3 hits but it just wasn’t enough. Got some tough decisions to make during G3.

Yeah unless either Germany or Italy invests heavily in air/naval, the Italians just don’t have enough to keep the US/UK out of the Med for long. Probably the only other options are if Japan guns for the Med to sync up with the Italian navy or if the Italians retreat out of the Med towards India to fight another day. In your case, the Japanese are too far away at this point so retreating was probably the only option to save them but then they would become pretty much useless outside of the Med. Tough decision, not sure how I would have played it.

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1941, version: 1.7

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 5 armour and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 techTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bulgaria Romania
            1 submarine moved from 12 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Manchuria

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Bulgaria Romania
                Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Bulgaria Romania, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Bulgaria Romania, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bulgaria Romania
                Russians win, taking Bulgaria Romania from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Manchuria
                Russians attack with 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Manchuria
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 13 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 transport; Italians defend with 1 armour
                    1 transport owned by the Germans and 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in 13 Sea Zone
                    Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 13 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                Russians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 bomber moved from Australia to Caucasus
            2 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Eastern Ukraine
            4 armour moved from Caucasus to Eastern Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Russia to Eastern Ukraine
            1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Eastern Ukraine
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belorussia
            1 artillery moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Belorussia
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belorussia
            2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Urals to Archangel
            4 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Stanovoj Chrebet

Place Units - Russians
            2 infantry placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            4 armour placed in Caucasus
            1 armour placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
            Objective 2: Russians met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 43 PUs
            Objective 1: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

Dice Statistics:

Total
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 2 times
            4 was rolled 2 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.571
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 0.833
        Standard Deviation : 0.913
        Total rolls : 7

Germans Combat
            4 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 4.000
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1

Russians Combat
            1 was rolled 1 times
            2 was rolled 1 times
            4 was rolled 1 times
            6 was rolled 2 times
        Average roll : 3.800
        Median : 4.000
        Variance : 1.750
        Standard Deviation : 1.323
        Total rolls : 5

Japanese Combat
            2 was rolled 1 times
        Average roll : 2.000
        Median : 2.000
        Variance : ?
        Standard Deviation : ?
        Total rolls : 1