Yet another sub question

1)  Any one territory of your choice (that doesn’t already have one, of course).  It works like any other IC.

2)  Your sub must either fight or move away in combat movement.

3)  His ships must either fight or move away in combat movement.

4)  No, nor after being offloaded.

5).  Fighters launch before their carrier moves, so they both begin their movement in the same sea zone.  Likewise, fighters land after their carrier moves, so they must both end their movement in the same sea zone.

Here’s a good thread on bidding

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=10438.0

Basically it boils down to how many units & IPC does it take to balance the game out.

Against a great player, you might need more…

I take it as I’m willing to play Axis for X IPC.

Also with heavy bombers, others use LHTR (Larry Harris Tournament Rules) where the most damage bmbs can do is limited to the total IPC value of the territory, some use 2X.  Yes, heavy bombers using OOB (Out of the Box) rules seem unfair but it’s still possible to win if you can go after the bmbs.  Deny the bmbs places to land, if all US/UK are buying bmbs than there is less ground troops, etc, etc.  Finding the right balance, but even than I would suggest going with the bid, and a few minor changes.  Take a look above LHTR is stickied.

Good luck and Good gaming!

thanks the FAQ is a big help

The page 7 reference is to the chart at the bottom of the page called “Spaces on the Game Board”.  It defines an island group as a game board space.  A land territory is also defined as a game board space, so the definition on page 8 of an island as a territory located inside a sea zone also defines it as a separate game board space.

There’s also this FAQ entry:

Can a fighter take part in a naval battle in a sea zone and then in a battle for the island in that sea zone?
No. The island is not part of the sea zone; it’s a different map space that is adjacent to the sea zone but not part of it.

Thanks +1.

LT

I agree, there’s not a lot of times you’d want to do that.  But I could see it in rare circumstances.  Usually transports, even unloaded ones (who leaves loaded transports out where they can be shot at?)

More fun is when someone forgets in AAR a submarine does not block enemy submarines and you sail under, sink his three aircraft carriers, submerge with your surviving submarines and watch his 6 fighters go sploosh in the Pacific Ocean.  It was a beautiful day.  He could have recovered easily, but the moral hit alone caused him to concede the game.  The best part is, submarines can’t shoot aircraft, so he HAD to take the carriers as casualties!

How often does that occur?  Like almost never!  Same with having a need to send fighters out to kill something and feinting at enemy ships to make the move “legal” even if you have no intention of ever recovering those fighters!

JSP4563 You are correct.

It might be worth mentioning that BBs and AAs fire only once each combat and subs fires each round, to clear out any confusion for new players.

-Daniel

I hate it, theres too many rules hurting the attacker, the attacker has the initiative, and theoretically wins.